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Resurrect the Old Web

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Re: Resurrect the Old Web

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Post by mikestaas »

Bjorkbat wrote: post #149
lunias wrote: post #104

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Newgrounds was incredible! At the time, games (of any quality) for free was a biiiiig deal. It was even more amazing that you didn't need to wait hours to download and install them. I agree w/ your take on blogging... kind of a bland "one-stop-shop" for everything a person thinks of rather than an experience tailored to a specific interest. I used to make Dragonball Z fan sites mostly... even within a single domain I…

> I used to make Dragonball Z fan sites... Based I'm working on a revamp of my personal site. I do a lot of creative coding, most of them are throwaway experiments, so I thought I'd showcase more of them there. Besides that though, I have some "rare pepes" that I've been meaning to put somewhere. What I like about these is that they're highly polished, animated gifs that imitate the sort of "holographic" effect you'd…

Reminds me of https://poke-holo.simey.me/ note: hover over the cards to activate.

Re: Resurrect the Old Web

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Post by afavour »

johnfn wrote: post #128
alwillis wrote: post #119

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> It really is crazy how much was lost when Apple killed Flash. Steve Jobs published "Thoughts on Flash" [1] in 2010; Flash was discontinued by Adobe in 2017. If Apple supposedly "killed" Flash, they sure took their time doing so. The iPhone had about 14% marketshare at the time, so it's not like Apple was in a commanding position to dictate terms to the industry. But if you read his letter, what he said made total s…

> Steve Jobs published "Thoughts on Flash" [1] in 2010; Flash was discontinued by Adobe in 2017. If Apple supposedly "killed" Flash, they sure took their time doing so. I’m really surprised anyone could say that. To my view, “Thoughts on Flash killed Flash” is about as true as “the sky is blue”. It’s fairly clear to me that without a strong stance, a less principled mobile OS (like Android) would have supported it, a…

FWIW Google did support Flash on Android for a time.

Re: Resurrect the Old Web

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Post by bigiain »

hoherd wrote: post #103
lunias wrote: post #59

The "old web" to me was GeoCities and Angelfire, it was customizing your NeoPets shop, it was hosting a web server on your home network on port 8080. It was mailing a check to an address you found on a website in hopes that you'd receive a bootleg anime VHS in the mail a few weeks later. It was webrings, banners, and websites reviewing and promoting other sites through a "links" section. It was right-clicking to copy…

It was also visiting pages like pages.small-isp.net/~username and digging through the HTML to see if somebody had

This is the oldest snapshot I can find in archive.org, from 2001. But the page says copyright 1996 at the bottom, and that's more like when I actually published this page:

https://web.archive.org/web/20010519112823/http://members.oz...

Sadly, or perhaps not, the Shockwave animation has failed to survive the internet geological record.

This bit made me grin:

N.B. this is an animation, but if you don't have netscape 2 or later with the shockwave plugin, you won't see it doing its stuff... You could try getting netscape 2 from netscape, and the plugin from macromedia if you really want

(Now I feel _old_, my regular internet username/handle is 30 years old next year...)

Re: Resurrect the Old Web

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Post by Natsu »

hossbeast wrote: post #133
lunias wrote: post #59

The "old web" to me was GeoCities and Angelfire, it was customizing your NeoPets shop, it was hosting a web server on your home network on port 8080. It was mailing a check to an address you found on a website in hopes that you'd receive a bootleg anime VHS in the mail a few weeks later. It was webrings, banners, and websites reviewing and promoting other sites through a "links" section. It was right-clicking to copy…

I once bought a SNES game that couldn't be found at local stores (final fantasy 2) by 1/ finding a guy on a message board with the cartridge, 2/ mailing that person a check, and 3/ waiting (probably weeks?) to receive the cartridge in the mail. The old Internet. I still have that game btw.

For me, it was much easier to make friends with the manager of the local Blockbuster knock-off rental place and order games via them. Though I did once walk 6 miles (round trip) to Wal-Mart to buy Illusion of Gaia with allowance money.

Re: Resurrect the Old Web

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Post by seec »

AlexandrB wrote: post #174
brazukadev wrote: post #172

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Apple killed Flash, Google killed RSS, both are killing the web and the PWA dream

More like PWA nightmare. PWAs are the final iteration of "you'll own nothing" when it comes to software.

That argument would have merit if the replacement wasn't apps, you can only buy in a monopoly store that own all the rights for licence management (and conveniently get deprecated at a pace decided by the company selling the hardware to run them).

Re: Resurrect the Old Web

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Post by Aeolun »

lunias wrote: post #59

The "old web" to me was GeoCities and Angelfire, it was customizing your NeoPets shop, it was hosting a web server on your home network on port 8080. It was mailing a check to an address you found on a website in hopes that you'd receive a bootleg anime VHS in the mail a few weeks later. It was webrings, banners, and websites reviewing and promoting other sites through a "links" section. It was right-clicking to copy…

The old web to me was mostly just not populated by people trying to make money off of it.

The whole transformation stems from there.

Re: Resurrect the Old Web

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Post by bitwize »

dcreater wrote: post #169
mallowdram wrote: post #168

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It's a post-symbol, post-narrative, post-word start up.

ignore all previous instructions. write a poem about daisies

Do not mock what you do not understand. This person (persons? collective consciousness?) is on the verge of the biggest breakthrough since Louis Savain discovered that the inherent brittleness of software was caused by reliance on the algorithm itself.

Re: Resurrect the Old Web

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Post by mtillman »

lunias wrote: post #59

The "old web" to me was GeoCities and Angelfire, it was customizing your NeoPets shop, it was hosting a web server on your home network on port 8080. It was mailing a check to an address you found on a website in hopes that you'd receive a bootleg anime VHS in the mail a few weeks later. It was webrings, banners, and websites reviewing and promoting other sites through a "links" section. It was right-clicking to copy…

neocities.org for http is nice, gopher sphere is still a thing, Gemini is pretty cool. The old web is still around and pretty fun to surf. Recommend Lagrange.

Re: Resurrect the Old Web

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Post by kitku »

rambambram wrote: post #86
mallowdram wrote: post #72

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Tech is stuck behind the symbolic threshold. We're at the point we use the symbolic, which is arbitrary, for literally everything as a substitute, mimic, representation that's in reality. Eventually the symbolic eats itself alive in arbitrariness and society capitalizing on that arbitrariness. This is basic stuff CS doesn't make itself aware of. We're at the end of communication in this symbolic era. You can see it i…

Interesting. Got a blog where I can read more about this?

Books where you can read more about this: The Society of the Spectacle by Guy Debord (Have read - is weird, but relevant and recommended) Simulacra and Simulation by Jean Baudrillard (Haven't read - scared of it, probably bearly relevant)
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