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Mozilla is fine taking money from Google, because it keeps "competition" alive otherwise Google would face antitrust lawsuits for running a monopoly.
Isn’t Safari 30% of browser share in the US?
Helium Browser
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Re: Helium Browser
#182Can someone explain to me why most browser forks are based on Chromium? If the goal is to make a privacy focused browser which is independent of Google, isn't it then a bit counterproductive to put all your eggs in a basket which only exists due to the goodwill of your main competitor? Why not webkit or Gecko? There might be a good argument for it, but as a person concerned with privacy and the future freedom of the…
Couple main reasons: 1) BSD license vs a CopyLeft license. Edge, Opera etc don't want to push their changes back up. 2) Compatibility and performance is why Brave switched from Gecko to Chromium. 75% of the marketshare is chromium based browsers so sites will more than likely work with chromium browsers. I don't why webkit is more popular. Maybe because it(Apple) is slow to adopt standards.
I think this is an interesting bit of propaganda - they are historically not all that slow to adopt actual standards.
What they often are is unwilling to adopt Google's pre-standardisation extensions (things like WebUSB, which have never been adopted as standards).
Re: Helium Browser
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Even in 2025 you still get the most compatibility with [insert-website-here] with Chromium
Sure but I only use Firefox (no other browser installed (except Edge on Windows)) and I don’t have any issues; so some none-trivial portion of the web doesn’t require Chrom(ium) specific behaviour.
Re: Helium Browser
#184Re: Helium Browser
#185> Helium is based on Chromium > Best privacy by default Sorry, pass... Even with un-googled Chromium I do not think these statements are self-consistent. We need browsers that do not allow Google to control the ecosystem. We need legitimate competition. So what, our choices are Firefox (Gecko), Safari (WebKit), and Ladybird? Personally I go with Firefox on most devices and Orion (WebKit) on my iPhone and iPad. > Heli…
Yeah, everyone is doing their little contribution to help Google take over the Web and turn it into ChromeOS Platform. Why did we ever bothered with the IE lawsuit, for a newer generation to give the Web on a plate to Google?
Re: Helium Browser
#186Earlier quoted context omitted.
Couple main reasons: 1) BSD license vs a CopyLeft license. Edge, Opera etc don't want to push their changes back up. 2) Compatibility and performance is why Brave switched from Gecko to Chromium. 75% of the marketshare is chromium based browsers so sites will more than likely work with chromium browsers. I don't why webkit is more popular. Maybe because it(Apple) is slow to adopt standards.
> Maybe because it(Apple) is slow to adopt standards I think this is an interesting bit of propaganda - they are historically not all that slow to adopt actual standards. What they often are is unwilling to adopt Google's pre-standardisation extensions (things like WebUSB, which have never been adopted as standards).
Re: Helium Browser
#187I learned about this project from Theo (T3 guy), and his approval of it, make of that what you will. Not 100% related but I found it funny that on that specific video, in which he spends the best part of 40 minutes talking about how the only browsers that are worth talking about are ones which "improve" your browsing experience beyond Chrome, which is the de facto "decent" browser. He mentions Zen and Vivaldi as exam…
b) He is an investor in helium
Re: Helium Browser
#188What makes me a bit uneasy about the project is that the website doesn't explain who is building it. For most open-source, I think that would be fine. But browsers auto-update, so their vendors essentially have the continued ability to run code on your machine. You want some confidence that they won't get owned and won't sell the access to bad actors down the line, so there is an element of personal trust. All the we…
Re: Helium Browser
#189> Helium is based on Chromium > Best privacy by default Sorry, pass... Even with un-googled Chromium I do not think these statements are self-consistent. We need browsers that do not allow Google to control the ecosystem. We need legitimate competition. So what, our choices are Firefox (Gecko), Safari (WebKit), and Ladybird? Personally I go with Firefox on most devices and Orion (WebKit) on my iPhone and iPad. > Heli…
> So what, our choices are Firefox (Gecko), Don't forget Servo. People are actively working on it, and it could use more help.
Re: Helium Browser
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> So what, our choices are Firefox (Gecko), Don't forget Servo. People are actively working on it, and it could use more help.
Hopefully the Ladybird browser will become a viable choice soon