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Zed's Pricing Has Changed: LLM Usage Is Now Token-Based

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#181

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How well does copilot edit prediction work vs Zed’s?

Still very poor. Not sure why they have so much trouble catching up. I would have expected them to by now. Cursor is still the best by far, followed by Windsurf (free by the way).

sorry, do you mean CoPilot is poor or Zed's own edit prediction is poor?

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#182

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If the full magnitude of products that stopped working on the main product and started to try to shoehorn AI in was known, the economy would collapse overnight.

Intellij wasn't immune to it either. Number of bugs has exploded since they started adding ai features to their ide, none of which I used for more than 5 minutes.

Werent you able to disable AI completely?

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#183
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I'm personally looking forward to this change because I currently pay $20/month just to get edit prediction. I use Claude Code in my terminal for everything else. I do wish I could just pay for edit prediction at an even lower price, but I can understand why that's not an option. I'm curious if they have plans to improve edit prediction though. It's honestly kind of garbage compared to Cursor, and I don't think I'm b…

The edit prediction model is open source https://huggingface.co/zed-industries/zeta

It's based on qwen 2.5 coder 7B and you should be able to run it locally quite easily since it would only require about 8 GB of VRAM for the 8-bit version. Not sure if Zed supports this though, I'm not a Zed user myself.

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#184
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Now I see little value in subscribing to Zed Pro compared to just bringing my own API key. Am I missing something?

Their burn agent mode is pretty badass, but is super costly to run. I'm a big fan of Zed but tbf I'm just using Claude Code + Nvim nowadays. Zed's problem with their Claude integration is that it will never be as good as just using the latest from Claude Code.

Same except with Helix.

The integration in Zed is limited by what the Claude Code SDK exposes. Since about half of the /commands are missing from the SDK, they don’t show up in Zed.

I think ACP was a good strategic move by Zed, but all I personally really need is Claude Code in a terminal pane with diffs of proposed edits in the absolutely wonderful multibuffer view

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#185

Zed was supposed to be the answer to Atom / Sublime Text in my opinion, and I kinda do want to use it as my main driver, but it just isn’t there yet for me. It’s shameful because I like its aesthetics as a product more than the competition out there. Just this other day I tried using it for something it sort of advertised itself as the superior thing, which was to load this giant text file I had instantly and let me…

I feel like Zed stopped working on the editor itself since AI was rolled out. I also wanted it to be the open-source alternative to Sublime, but nothing comes close.

Yep. I used it for a while and went back to VS Code for my personal stuff because there just wasn’t any visible improvement on the editor itself. Having a native UI is a great party trick, but the functionality needs to follow.

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#186
Since the VC investment by Sequoia I’ve had my doubts about Zed. For one thing, a certain high-profile member of that VC publicly promotes a worldview that does not align with mine. For another, I’ve had it with my favorite products constantly enshittifying. I’d always seen my subscription more as a recurring donation toward development anyway, so I canceled it.

That said, Zed continues to impress. The editor itself, the technical blog posts, the introduction of new standards like ACP, fair pricing – all paint a picture of a talented, stand-up group of people.

So I welcome this new pricing, although like others I’m confused why I would pay 10% extra if I can BYOK.

Honestly, I wish I could just pay for Zed as a regular user. After all, I pay for Pycharm even though I don’t use it that much these days. I want to be a paying user so that Zed’s incentives align with mine, not with some big corpo’s. But perhaps that sort of thinking is detached from the reality of building a viable business around an editor…

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#187
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meanwhile me hiding from accounting for spending $500 on cursor max mode in a day

Did you actually get 500 bucks worth of work out of it?

No way to measure it directly, but it did write 4kLOC of mostly working angular... whether non-max would manage the same feat in the same time is an open question.

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#188

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Why? Genuine curiosity, what's the angle for a market for sublime/zed alternatives? What are they lacking? And congrats on your project, looks interesting.

> Why? Genuine curiosity, what's the angle for a market for sublime/zed alternatives? What are they lacking? In my opinion, Sublime’s biggest gap is that it’s not open-source, and there aren’t many (if any) open-source alternatives that match its feature set, performance, and unique user experience, Sublime just feels especially nice. Zed comes closest, and I think it’s fantastic, but it’s VC-backed, so their focus o…

> Sublime’s biggest gap is that it’s not open-source

But yours is also not open-source

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#189
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The whole business model even for OAI/Anthropic is unsustainable.. they are already running it at a huge loss atm, and will do for the foreseeable future. The economics simply doesn't work, unfortunately or not

OAI/Anthropic/Big AI players today never ever need to become profitable... The same way roads never need to become profitable by themselves. This per token charge is like tolls, it has nothing to do with the costs. AI, just like cloud was before this, is being treated as "infrastructure". The reason people invest in roads is not to make money from the road itself, but rather recuper all the losses from the new extrem…

I don't even know where to start with this. Comparing private companies to roads? This makes no sense right? These companies, like roads never have to turn a profit?

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#190

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This is the one thing keeping me from switching from Cursor. I much prefer Zed in every other way. Exciting!

Yeah, Cursor tab completion is basically in the realm of magical mind reading and might still be the most insane productivity demonstration of LLM tech in software. It obsoleted making Vim macros and multiline editing for example. Now you just make one change and the LLM can derive the rest; you just press tab. It's interesting that the Cursor team's first iteration is still better than anything I've seen in their co…

Windsurf.
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