Tesla influencers tried coast-to-coast self-driving, hit debris before 60 miles

Post by AnimalMuppet » Mon, Sep 22, 2025, 1:34 PM UTC

ACCount37 wrote: post #77

coreyh14444 wrote: post #7

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The debris is pretty close to the color of the road. Seems like a good case for radar/lidar ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Yeah! Just add more sensors! We're only 992 more sensors away from full self-driving! It totally works that way! The debris? The very visible piece of debris? The piece of debris that a third party camera inside the car did in fact see? Adding 2 radars and 5 LIDARs would totally solve that! For fuck's sake, I am tired of this worn out argument. The bottleneck of self-driving isn't sensors. It was never sensors. The b…

Post by cozzyd » Mon, Sep 22, 2025, 1:36 PM UTC

pavlov wrote: post #160

TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #117

One of my biggest criticisms of Elon is that he rarely takes accountability for his words and nobody ever holds him accountable by asking directly. This isn't a high bar to clear, but some people continuously excuse him as being "overly-eager" in his predictions. If that was the case, he could still provide reasonable updates when a predicted date is missed along with an explanation, even if it's just: "Hey, it turns…

He lies relentlessly even to customers who paid for the product. I know because I’m one of them. FSD paid in full almost seven years ago, still does absolutely nothing in Europe. A five-year-old would do a better job at driving because the Tesla can’t even see speed limit signs correctly. Tesla takes no responsibility for their misleading marketing and years of lies. Most recently Musk promised in early 2025 that the…

Post by jcranmer » Mon, Sep 22, 2025, 1:36 PM UTC

Mistletoe wrote: post #11

petesergeant wrote: post #3

> Tesla’s EV business is in decline and the stock price depends entirely on the self-driving and robot promises I don't think that's right; I think the stock price entirely depends on people seeing it a vehicle to invest in Musk. If Musk died tomorrow, but nothing else changed at Tesla, the stock price would crater.

I actually think the stock price would go up. His detour to fascism and megalomania has chased off tons of liberal environmentalists like myself that are the target audience for electric cars. I cancelled what would have been our replacement Tesla when he was implying on Twitter there can be good reasons for sneaking into the speaker of the house’s house and hitting her husband in the head with a hammer.

Post by Xylakant » Mon, Sep 22, 2025, 1:38 PM UTC

carlmr wrote: post #92

zwaps wrote: post #79

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Why are Dutch or Swiss highways so much more pristine than French and German ones? Have you compared distances?

German ones are still way way cleaner than US highways. Germany is also the country with the most traffic because it's kind of at the center of everything and pays roads with income tax instead of tolls. The French charge really high tolls and have very little traffic compared to Germany. They really don't have an excuse.

Post by xnx » Mon, Sep 22, 2025, 1:38 PM UTC

jeffbee wrote: post #85

general1465 wrote: post #50

Tangentially - If you as a European happen to drive on US highways, you will noticed that they are heavily littered with fallen cargo, aluminum ladders, huge amount of shredded tires and occasionally a trailer without a towing car... It has been so bizarre for me to observe this. Nobody is cleaning that?

You might have also noticed that the pavement is terrible. Mostly this comes down to the fact that in Europe the fuel taxes 3-4x ours.