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Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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Re: Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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Wonder why this made the frontpage when other political articles die. Has the rules around political non technical articles changed? Can we get an Epstein thread for the frontpage sometime this week?

C'mon man, the Charlie Kirk post stayed on the front-page for a pretty long time.

Re: Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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One party had a long leash. The other cut the leash and yelled attaboy. Now acting mildly concerned when the neighbour downstreet (Qatar) got their chickens bombed.

> Now acting mildly concerned when the neighbour downstreet (Qatar) got their chickens bombed. Thing is, what was bombed there was Hamas leadership, not some rank-and-file goons.

Yes, and at this point I'm not arguing for or against that action. I'm saying the current and previous US administration have very different foreign policy.

Re: Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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post #84

It's always useful to balance these claims against their critics. Towards that end I offer up unwatch. https://unwatch.org/

You can criticize it, but the fact that we're here should tell you enough already.

There is no "yes, but" when genocide is taking place.

Re: Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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post #84

It's always useful to balance these claims against their critics. Towards that end I offer up unwatch. https://unwatch.org/

Nice critic. I remember on Reddit watching someone get blown up the other day while carrying water while it was still up. I think they were under 10. Not sure if they died or just lost all their limbs.

That was a young Gazan girl who tripped a Hamas IED that had been set for Israeli troops. That's why there was a camera pointed at it.

Re: Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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Intentionally killing children will never be justified, everything else serves as a decoy from acknowledging this simple fact.

Israel does not intentionally kill children. Hamas does. They state it clearly.

Quite the opposite actually.

You're free to Google the countless cases of Israel deliberately killing children, but I doubt you wanna get out of your echo chamber.

Re: Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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Why would we expect any desirable outcome in this hypothetical though? So the US flips, Israel is pressured into withdrawing, Hamas regains control of the strip and resumes rocket attacks, Israel is forced to respond eventually. It doesn't seem like a path toward a real solution.

> It doesn't seem like a path toward a real solution. As long as the Dahiya doctrine persists, it won't be. But that's an Israeli problem - their disproportionate response has been exploited for years . Hamas is fine letting Israel commit as many war crimes as it takes to satisfy their leadership, it very clearly hasn't changed tactics in recent years. The cost to Israeli international credibility seems to be "worth…

America is pissing away its hegemony all on its own.

Re: Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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Flipping the U.S. really is the key to ending this conflict. The U.S. reliably uses its security council veto to nix any meaningful UN response and the U.S. remains, by far, the biggest supplier of arms to the IDF. If the US were to stop veto'ing everything and cut off the IDF's supply of, at least, some types of weapons, the new ground assault would likely end quickly. Unfortunately, that isn't likely to happen. Net…

There's definitely a generational gap going in the US. Support for Israel is not popular among the younger generation in the US, and there's a good deal of voters in their 20s and 30s for whom support for Israel a red line in candidates. But older generations tend to be staunchly in favor of Israel, and too much of the gerontocratic political class thinks that pro-Israel uber alles is the key to winning votes. It is…

I wouldn't label this as "support for Israel"/"against Israel". One can support Israel without supporting Israel's current approach. Many within Israel are not happy with Netanyahu's methods, and presumably they are not against Israel.

I understand that that's the current shorthand, but it seems inaccurate and unnecessarily polarizing to me.

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