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Apple has a private CSS property to add Liquid Glass effects to web content

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Re: Apple has a private CSS property to add Liquid Glass effects to web content

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Yeah, this seems reasonable to me. The better thing to get annoyed at Apple for is being slow to implement web standards. I guess you could make the argument that they are choosing to work on stuff like this instead, but I think that’s a weak argument.

And even then, they've made efforts to get better. Safari is starting to edge out Firefox for support of the features I actually want to use

I just want to use color SVGs as favicons. One file format- looks great on any screen at any size. But no, Safari isn’t interested in that feature.

Edit: I looked it up, and apparently its added in Safari 26!

Re: Apple has a private CSS property to add Liquid Glass effects to web content

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Its a toss up between anticompetitive being bad and unified standards being good. Look at the m3/4 macs they are insane machines because even the hardware is unified.

What do you mean by unified? Strix Halo is "unified". The M series platform isn't the only unified platform out there.

The OS and hardware were developed in close collaboration

Re: Apple has a private CSS property to add Liquid Glass effects to web content

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What do you mean by unified? Strix Halo is "unified". The M series platform isn't the only unified platform out there.

The OS and hardware were developed in close collaboration

Somewhat overrated because the release cycle for an OS change can be as little as a day, but the release cycle for a CPU change is like 3-4 years.

Re: Apple has a private CSS property to add Liquid Glass effects to web content

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That would not get through the App Store review process.

Depends on how you implement it.

Can you give an example of an app in the App Store that uses internal APIs to provide animated home screen widgets?

Re: Apple has a private CSS property to add Liquid Glass effects to web content

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Yes, those parts of the Settings app are built with web views that embed React Web: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30648424

Oh so that's why they're terrible and often break with no error messaging or recourse

Probably, but it’s not as if the native parts of Settings are much better.

Re: Apple has a private CSS property to add Liquid Glass effects to web content

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So when Google creates self-serving APIs in a web browser engine, it's anti-consumer and is killing the free web. But when Apple creates self-serving APIs in a web browser engine, it's just another private entitlement, a red herring and their right as the proprietor of Safari. The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

The difference is that Google is by far in a much more dominant position and every dev who leverages Chrome-specific APIs further entrenches that dominance. In the browser space, Apple is the long-trailing runner-up and has far less impact. It appears that this particular API is restricted to embedded webviews, too (doesn’t work in Safari), so it has no bearing on the open web, unlike APIs such as WebUSB in Chrome.

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Re: Apple has a private CSS property to add Liquid Glass effects to web content

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Maybe 5 years ago this was a true, they accelerated development and their standards support is pretty good now, better than FF. Again, not counting Chrome's "EEE" non-standard API's, they largely move fast and implement most modern ones. Some PWA stuff is missing which is valid, while Chrome is behind on a few nice design-focused standards Safari has. Go here: https://caniuse.com/?compare=chrome+143,safari+26.0&compa…

Maybe you should read the DOJ suit against Apple. It's pretty clear that one reason (among many) that Apple is getting sued is because of abusive business practices exactly as I described. Apple forcing Safari on iOS is present day, today, not 5 years ago (but it was also 5 years ago too, ever since there was an iOS webview). If Apple doesn't want to implement it, then they shouldn't force other browser makers to use…

So you’re ignoring my entire comment and re-iterating the part I didn’t respond to.

Re: Apple has a private CSS property to add Liquid Glass effects to web content

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Actually it does not. It used to, but then was rewritten. The Accessibility Inspector app can be used to see what's the class of the UI elements, if you want to check.

I think it still might. I use it all the time on my laptop, and periodically if I do something funky with the network, the entire view panel says that there was an internal server error in that classic no-CSS Times New Roman font. Do you have a source for this?

As I wrote above, use Accessibility Inspector to inspect the UI.

Re: Apple has a private CSS property to add Liquid Glass effects to web content

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post #34

Nice find! Apple's new glass UI seems to draw a lot of ire, but I... kinda like it? It feels like the OS has some actual personality again instead of just being flat and boring. I can visually tell the size of click targets now and the buttons are finally visually distinct from text again. I view it as a welcome change. It's not just "nostalgia" either. It has actual utility. I installed the iOS 26 Beta to test some…

> Apple's new glass UI seems to draw a lot of ire

Some of it is because of looks, but the overwhelming majority of criticism is due to bugs and legibility and accessibility issues. Liquid Glass is at best half-baked, especially on macOS. It got tweaked so much from their WWDC presentation, you can tell it was rushed and no one really thought it through.

As a short example, go into System Settings, do a search, then scroll the view and look at the search bar. Or go into a folder, scroll it, and watch the contents screw with the title.

> Normies will love it.

Here’s a sample of one hating it.

https://www.threads.com/@chrispirillo/post/DOpUPrIiYdX

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