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Re: PayPal to support Ethereum and Bitcoin

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real question because i don't know, what do people actually buy with crypto other than other money or illegal stuff? i presume paypal won't be happy with you buying/selling drugs with it

I have a virtual crypto card and gave it to my daughter and she added it to the Google wallet on her android. She uses it anywhere to buy anything. My bank didn't want to open bank account to minor. Everything was set up in 10 minutes. I transfer to her some random coins and it just works. I also use it myself as a backup abroad when my regular bank foreign account doesn't work for any reason. I got the card in the m…

Your bank does not offer custodial or joint accounts?

Re: PayPal to support Ethereum and Bitcoin

#182

real question because i don't know, what do people actually buy with crypto other than other money or illegal stuff? i presume paypal won't be happy with you buying/selling drugs with it

There are legit uses that enterprise companies are using today, but they are few and far between in comparison to day trading/speculation/etc. For example, moving money from different currencies usually requires foreign exchange fees which can be hefty - whereas if you buy some stablecoin in a local currency and then sell that stablecoin in the currency you want to have in your bank account, you pay tiny transaction costs and thats it. This is a real problem for companies who have operations in tons of countries, and have to manage bank accounts and local entities in all of those countries. Imagine reducing your profit by 1-2% just because you want your profits in ireland instead of mexico. Stablecoins make that into https://a16zcrypto.com/posts/article/stripe-bridge-acquisiti... has some examples

Re: PayPal to support Ethereum and Bitcoin

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real question because i don't know, what do people actually buy with crypto other than other money or illegal stuff? i presume paypal won't be happy with you buying/selling drugs with it

Stablecoin payments are currently a hugely growing business, mainly for B2B payments as I understand it. I think its really hard for people who have absorbed 10 years of anti-crypto groupthink from HN to digest the fact that crypto is here to stay and is finding legitimate use cases. Stablecoin payments really are just better: - Instant settlement - Extremely cheap - Extremely reliable - Highly programmable - Built o…

Yeah, its amazing how much anti-crypto HN is. I decided to invest entire year in learning technology and I couldn't be happier on that decision. The entire ecosystem of mainstream coins is mind-blowing and too big to fail at this point.

Re: PayPal to support Ethereum and Bitcoin

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People who hate crypto will hate anything that has anything to do with crypto. People who love crypto will hate anything that has anything to do with legacy censorship-prone fraudulent financial institutions like PayPal. Who is this for?

the people that neither hate nor love crypto?

The people who embrace both! I love having options.

Re: PayPal to support Ethereum and Bitcoin

#187

real question because i don't know, what do people actually buy with crypto other than other money or illegal stuff? i presume paypal won't be happy with you buying/selling drugs with it

I know quite some Russian companies using bitcoins t to trade with western companies. For example large ad networks and bookies that operate there and pay in bitcoins. Malta, Switzerland are quite popular for these constructions.

Re: PayPal to support Ethereum and Bitcoin

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real question because i don't know, what do people actually buy with crypto other than other money or illegal stuff? i presume paypal won't be happy with you buying/selling drugs with it

I bought a Go board and some stones from GoGameGuru back in the day. A bitcoin was only 200-ish Euros back then. Funny to think how much that's gone up.

Those stones cost you a couple hundred thousand or something

Re: PayPal to support Ethereum and Bitcoin

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I think the difference here is that Bitcoin is predictable deflationary vs fiat being unpredictable. If you can know in advance the rate, it becomes sorta like an investment vehicle, where instead of dividends you get appreciation of the assets. To look at it another way - why one would spend $100 from their brokerage account if they know a year later they can spend $110?

Bitcoin is not remotely predictable. The value has swung wildly over the past 5 years. Dropping more than 50% then gaining 200%. By comparison, USD has been rock solid even with the recent run of inflation. An actually circulating currency causes a panic at an 8% drop in value and yet there was zero macroeconomic impact from BTC dropping 50%. BTC is less stable than Turkish Lira.

The same can be said for stocks, and they are considered a good investment if you are in the knows. As an example, Tesla lost a third of its value this year.

Re: PayPal to support Ethereum and Bitcoin

#190

real question because i don't know, what do people actually buy with crypto other than other money or illegal stuff? i presume paypal won't be happy with you buying/selling drugs with it

To answer your question, I hardly buy anything with crypto because there's barely support... Hopefully this is a catalyst for change.

I feel like this is the wrong question to ask. Instead try "why would someone purchase with crypto over fiat?". I prefer to use crypto for international online purchases because the transaction and conversion fees from my native currency are way too high. With crypto it's a one off deposit fee and then gas is trivial these days.

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