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Navy SEALs reportedly killed North Korean fishermen to hide a failed mission
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#182Terrible murder aside, what kind of signals was that device going to intercept and why did it need to be on shore?
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#183Anyone willing to speculate what the target and electronic device could’ve been?
Fiber cable tap?
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#184Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I have watched a lot of ex-special forces guys on YT. > Needless to say, I take it all with massive grains of salt I think it needs to be said that people who choose those careers are probably one of the worst kinds of people. They choose to use their unique, advantageous talents to murder people on command. And then you select out of those the ones that think being interviewed on YouTube about that is a good idea.…
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I dunno about “hard” man, it sounds like those Korean fishermen didn’t put up much of a fight.
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#185Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I have watched a lot of ex-special forces guys on YT. > Needless to say, I take it all with massive grains of salt I think it needs to be said that people who choose those careers are probably one of the worst kinds of people. They choose to use their unique, advantageous talents to murder people on command. And then you select out of those the ones that think being interviewed on YouTube about that is a good idea.…
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Hard does not mean good or useful
Re: Navy SEALs reportedly killed North Korean fishermen to hide a failed mission
#186If later the murdered fishermen are identified and their stories known, is it possible for their families to seek compensation from USG?
If they weren't in NK they could probably try. But given the poverty there, how restrictive the government is about anything getting out, and that they're in a hostile nation to the US, the answer is effectively "No."
If they got anything at all it'd be a PR stunt, since they have no way of enforcing any compensation.
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#187I'm always surprised like at this level it still seems some people absolutely want to fire there weapons; whereas I would say the more secret a mission is, the more experience you have, the more training you have and you should have understood that killing people and making noises was not the goal of the mission... It should be more teached it seems, sometimes there is operational value in not killing people.
> It should be more teached it seems, sometimes there is operational value in not killing people.
You're probably not a native speaker: the proper past tense of teach is "taught".
And you're of course right! I'm also an outsider to the US. It seems to me that "kill first think later" is the modus operandi of all kinds of US armed forces, from the police to the army and the navy.
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#188Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unless you were there, there is no reason to think any of the stories (good or bad) are anything other than propaganda.
The US navy literally wrote the book, and gave it to Luttrell. This has recently come to light. Now if that’s not propaganda then I don’t know what is.
I'm not trying to be a jerk here, but source? Genuinely curious.
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#189Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is my best understanding as well. I have watched a lot of ex-special forces guys on YT. Needless to say, I take it all with massive grains of salt, including the claim that they were even SF in the first place. However, they all describe the selection processes similarly. And, my educated assumption is that this part is probably too dull for them to lie about, much less lie about in unison across many accounts a…
> I have watched a lot of ex-special forces guys on YT. > Needless to say, I take it all with massive grains of salt I think it needs to be said that people who choose those careers are probably one of the worst kinds of people. They choose to use their unique, advantageous talents to murder people on command. And then you select out of those the ones that think being interviewed on YouTube about that is a good idea.…
> I think it needs to be said that people who choose those careers are probably one of the worst kinds of people.
I’m guessing you’ve never met any special operations people, much less folks from the SMUs. I have met many. 100% A+ people. I’m sure there are bad apples, but I’ve never met one.
> They choose to use their unique, advantageous talents to murder people on command.
Rules of engagement are a thing — a very real thing.
For those who are interested, here is an interview with a very active former Delta Force operator. There are interesting stories about selection, rules of engagement, the stresses of doing the type of work he did, and life after the military.
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#190Earlier quoted context omitted.
The US navy literally wrote the book, and gave it to Luttrell. This has recently come to light. Now if that’s not propaganda then I don’t know what is.
I'm not trying to be a jerk here, but source? Genuinely curious.
I don't have a link handy, but I recall seeing on YT a clip of Luttrell basically outright stating that the Navy "handed him the book pre-written" in an interview.