It's wild to see an AI company put out a press release that is basically "hey, you kids wanna see a loaded gun?" Normally all their public coms are so full of optimism and salesmanship around the potential. They are fully aware of how dangerous this is.
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#182It's wild to see an AI company put out a press release that is basically "hey, you kids wanna see a loaded gun?" Normally all their public coms are so full of optimism and salesmanship around the potential. They are fully aware of how dangerous this is.
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#183> Malicious actors can hide instructions in websites, emails, and documents that trick AI into taking harmful actions without your knowledge, including: > * Accessing your accounts or files > * Sharing your private information > * Making purchases on your behalf > * Taking actions you never intended This should really be at the top of the page and not one full screen below the "Try" button.
Can somebody explain this security problem to me please. How is there not an actual deterministic traditionally programmed layer in-between the LLM and whatever it wants to do? That layer shows you exactly what changes it is going to apply and it is going to ask you for confirmation. What is the actual problem here?
How are you going to present this information to users? I mean average users, not programmers.
LLM: I'm going to call the click event on: {spewing out a bunch of raw DOM).
Not like this, right?
If you can design an 'actual deterministic traditionally programmed layer' that presents what's actually happening at lower level in a user-friendly way and make it work for arbitrary websites, you'll get Turing Award. Actually Turing Award is downplaying your achievement. You'll be remembered as someone who invented (not even 'reinvented') the web.
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#184Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s wild to me that people see this as bad. The point of the form is not in the filling. You shouldn't want to fill out a form. If you could accomplish your task without the busywork, why wouldn’t you? If you could interact with the world on your terms, rather than in the enshitified way monopoly platforms force on you, why wouldn't you? And yeah, if you could consume content in the way you want, rather than the way…
> I understand the issue with AI gen slop, but slop content has been around since before AI - it's the incentives that are rotten. Everyone says this, and it feels like a wholly unserious way to terminate the thinking and end the conversation. Is the slop problem meaningfully worse now that we have AI? Yes: I’m coming across much more deceptively framed or fluffed up content than I used to. Is anyone proposing any (a…
It's true that AI makes the slop easier.
That's actually a good thing.
Slop has been out there and getting worse for the last decade but it's been at an, unfortunately, acceptable level for most of society.
Gen AI shouts that the emperor has no clothes.
The bullshit busywork can be generated. It's worthless. Finally.
No more long winded grant proposals. Or filler emails. Or Filler presentations. Or filler videos. or perfectly samey selfies.
Now it's worthless. Now we can move on.
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#185Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have built a custom "deep research" internally that uses puppeteer to find business information, tech stack and other information about a company for our sales team. My experience was that giving the LLM a very limited set of tools and no screenshots worked pretty damn well. Tbf for my use case I don't need more interactivity than navigate_to_url and click_link. Each tool returning a text version of the page and th…
Just shoving everything into one context fails after just a few turns. I've had more success with a hierarchy of agents. A supervisor agent stays focused on the main objective, and it has a plan to reach that objective that's revised after every turn. The supervisor agent invokes a sub-agent to search and select promising sites, and a separate sub-sub-agent for each site in the search results. When navigating a site…
Hmm my browser agents each have about 50-100 turns (takes roughly 3-5 minutes for each one) and one focused objective I make use of structured output to group all the info it found into a standardized format at the end.
I have 4 of those "research agents" with different prompts running after another and then I format the results into a nice slack message + Summarize and evaluate the results in one final call (with just the result jsons as input).
This works really well. We use it to score leads as for how promising they are to reach out to for us.
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#1862 cents to this thread, I made a simple demo of a sidebar using openai to support actual interactions with the 'browser stuff', not the web. Of course, it's not the case of agentic (if async this then async that) yet nevertheless I prompt us to think about that 'middle space' which actually values the browser functions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qloYFzCwJu0
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#187It's wild to see an AI company put out a press release that is basically "hey, you kids wanna see a loaded gun?" Normally all their public coms are so full of optimism and salesmanship around the potential. They are fully aware of how dangerous this is.
I think if it were made by OpenAI the presentation would be flowery and rosy.
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#188Fuck google. Fuck chrome. Enough of these bastards making the web their playground. Revolutions must start somewhere, HN is full of bright people, let’s not get fooled so easily with shiny toys.
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#189I don’t know if this will make anything better. Internet is now filled with ai generated text, picture or videos. Like we havent had enough already, it is becaming more and more. We make ai agents to talk to each other. Someone will make ai to generate a form, many other will use ai to fill that form. Even worst, some people will fill millions of forms in matter of second. What is left is the empty feeling of having…
I am starting to see this age of internet-for-robots-by-robots as our second chance to detach from those devices and start living irl again.
Just the pesky matter of figuring out what humans will do for money, and then we'll be free to run in the meadows like we were meant to
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#190Just a few years ago I was wondering if the security industry would dry up as all the common exploits are patched or standardized out of common code. What a gift this is! The security industry is going nowhere soon…