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Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by prinny_ »

crossroadsguy wrote: post #103
TranquilMarmot wrote: post #49

I spent the past month "de-Googling" my life after I saw a notice in my Gmail inbox that it was 20 years old. I took a step back and realized just how invested into the Google ecosystem I was. Gmail, Calendar, Docs, Drive, Maps, Keep, Photos, YouTube, FitBit, Android. Basically my entire digital life. My goal was more diversifying than security/privacy, but security/privacy is a really nice bonus. I ended up going wi…

Switch to an iPhone. Apple's software and services (sync, drive, photo backup etc) are so inferior, especially compared with Google's (technically speaking), you'd be anyway forced to use third party (often cross platform) solutions. No risk of going deep into Apple's ecosystem ;-)

Having used both Google and Apple for notes, calendar, docs, cloud back up (general files) and photos I have come to believe Google has the better tech but Apple has the better product. It fascinates me how Google just can’t design a simple and intuitive UI for its products, which are by all means technically superior.

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by layer8 »

tsimionescu wrote: post #76
Semaphor wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless you use some sketchy TLDs, I've not heard of that

I've seen plenty of stories of people who forget or are unable for whatever reason to renew their domain names on time.

Where I live, auto-renew is the default, and the annual fees automatically get debited from your credit card or bank account. The ToS of my registrar give a two-months grace period in case of payment issues. I haven't had to do anything manually in over 20 years to keep my domains.

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by monkeywork »

indigodaddy wrote: post #178
prmoustache wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would run away from any service that forces me to use discord fr support.

Take it easy. It's not their official support channel. They have tickets like everyone else, with the added bonus that you can nudge them in their chat. You can take advantage of it or not, no forcing involved. The discord is more about community than a support channel. In fact they will usually ask you to open a ticket if you haven't already for direct support issues that don't look to be a general/shared issue.

Curious who is looking for "community" when it comes to their email hosting provider. The word "community" gets tossed around so much it's basically meaningless - but I mean, even in the loosest definition of it why would you want to interact with random people who simply use the same provider you do... like would you want a Discord server for your local gas station chain or power company?

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by inopinatus »

prof-dr-ir wrote: post #119
TranquilMarmot wrote: post #49

I spent the past month "de-Googling" my life after I saw a notice in my Gmail inbox that it was 20 years old. I took a step back and realized just how invested into the Google ecosystem I was. Gmail, Calendar, Docs, Drive, Maps, Keep, Photos, YouTube, FitBit, Android. Basically my entire digital life. My goal was more diversifying than security/privacy, but security/privacy is a really nice bonus. I ended up going wi…

I am very interested in moving my photos and data to a self-hosted solution but am a little anxious about backups. Do you simply trust hetzner to not lose the data on your 1TB storage box? (I am aware that I am currently trusting google and dropbox to do just that.)

It is still viable to self-host everything from photos to mail yourself and sync to cloud/storage services as disaster recovery. It helps if you have an infrastructure background but anyone can set this up. Never trust just one service; no company is too big to fail and durability is always best effort, even if that effort is very good. Mail is the most annoying service to self-host, not because it's technically difficult but because deliverability is a long-term reputation function that easily deteriorates from misconfiguration or neglect. Nevertheless I've been my own MX and storage provider since the early '90s and it's too late to change my ways now, you just have to keep up with the gold standard as it varies.

The biggest hazard, especially if the whole family uses your stuff, is key-person risk, since infrastructure requires maintenance. The second biggest is being out of your depth in securing it.

My only regret in all my years of self-hosting was that time I returned a portable /24 to APNIC. Still stings even if it was the right thing to do, civically speaking.

I retain gmail & hotmail accounts for deliverability checks and as signup swamps.

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by tgma »

I don't understand the logic. I mean if you hate Google, or you specifically want to avoid Google having your data sure, but whichever email provider you choose will have at some point access to your plaintext email and they may choose to store it. There's no such thing as real end-to-end encrypted email unless the sender actively does so or you run the server yourself (and be online to do the TLS handshake when someone connects to your domain's MX address).

Another concern about anything social is that there are at least two sides in a conversation and whoever leaks the data to a third party will compromise privacy of all so it is really hard to prevent your email from getting to Gmail servers one way or another.

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by lemoncucumber »

NomDePlum wrote: post #150
onlyhumans wrote: post #134

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Fastmail is kind of a weird service. If you stop paying they release your email for someone else to take over. Pretty unacceptable this day and age.

How's that different from any other provider?

Any provider with a free tier doesn’t have the issue so that covers a lot of them

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by gkmcd »

I did the same thing some years ago. I chose purelymail[0] as the MX for my personal domain and would recommend. The only issue is that it's so cheap, and my credit lasts so long, I forget that it is in fact a paid service and that I do actually need to make a payment from time to time...

[0]https://purelymail.com/

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by tamimio »

palata wrote: post #124
rendleflag wrote: post #122

I’ve been a Fastmail user for years, having left Gmail. It works great and have nothing be but praise for them. I use my own domain with them so if I decide to leave it’s not an issue worrying about updating people with my new email.

I was really happy with Fastmail as well. Before that I used ProtonMail, which was annoying because it forced me to install their bridge and use their encryption stuff. After Fastmail I went to Migadu, and it's absolutely great. I have never seen support requests getting answers that quickly :-).

I don’t see masked email feature in Migadu, is there one? Useful for burner services
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