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‘No Other Land’ consultant Awdah Hathaleen killed by Israeli settler

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Bunch of racist Israeli hooligans that were thrown into the Amsterdam Canals got more outrage from the international media and diplomats than a livestreamed cold blooded murder by a terrorist.

This is everything you need to know about the world we live in. Palestinian lives simply do not matter.

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It's not so shocking when you realize that israel is a european settler colony created and founded by europeans and settled by europeans. I don't think many european countries criticized the settlement of canada, us, australia, argentina, etc.

Israel isn't a semitic country. It is a european/western country just like australia. It's just that nobody calls out the obvious.

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In ideal world international peacekeeping forces would be deployed in Gaza. The peace and two state solution could only be enforced by imposing severe sanctions on Israel including possibility of aerial NATO strikes like in the former Yugoslavia.

Is two-state solution possible? Just look at the map of the territories under palestinian control, they're bantustans. Israel/Palestine is factually one state, which simply doesn't accept half of its population as citizens. You could also say that "two-state solution" has been tried in 1948, but (for whatever reasons) didn't work out. So support for 2-state is just a form of delaying the inevitable. I am now firm bel…

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For most of the kids falling over themselves in this conflict, history between the two nations began October 8th 2023. For the adults that run the world and been around 50+ years watching this shit, they just want it to be over, and don't really care who wins. At this point Palestine has no cards left and no friends helping them. They have lost, and the adults want them to go away without human-shielding themselves t…

>human-shielding The '''adults''' are not the ones accepting this and other canards that Israel and their apologists keep bandying about.

Do you have the address for the Hamas Dept of Defense HQ, or the present location of their leadership?

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Once Gaza and the West Bank are taken care of, will Lebanon, Jordan, or Syria be next? Israel very much depends on being the dominant power in the region. If they lose US support, things could get ugly indeed. And they are losing support rapidly now.

I think if Israel went the lebensraum route, it would be WW3 for real.

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wild cuz it was sorta the rest of the world that started the "Semitic tribal warfare"

Semitic tribal warfare has been a thing since the Mari–Ebla hundred years war c. 2500BC.

well yeah if you claim a war is justified because there have been wars between people in that area then every war is justified because warfare has been happening everywhere there have been humans since humans arrived

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Israel is the textbook example of proverbs "you become what you're fighting with" and "if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into you".

If they were 10% as bad as their opposition Gaza would have been Arab-free for decades now.

They have been settling the only territory that actually stopped the armed struggle against Israel. The West Bank has literally kicked out Hamas, stopped fighting for years, and given up their arms for the most part. And Israel has been relentlessly colonizing them since then, as a show of good faith I guess. The Palestinians there have absolutely 0 recourse, and will eventually lose all of their home land.

But I'm sure they wouldn't have done the same to Gaza if they would've just done the right thing by kicking off Hamas, and stopping any armed resistance !

I mean they didn't literally kill every single arab in Gaza yet so they are very progressive. They'd rather just slowly settle your land and kill you if you resist, as opposed to Hamas who would've done the same but faster. Let's not forget that they have killed tens of thousands of Muslims, but at least they could've killed even more!

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Assuming the entirety of history began on October 7th, 2023, this is true.

History is a funny thing, now that you mention it.

Should we start in 1948, when all of Israel’s neighbors invaded simultaneously? Or one of the other times Israel was invaded by their neighbors? Should we go back further and blame the Ottoman Empire for collapsing and causing a power vacuum in the region?

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That's correct. I would not kill a million unarmed people and hundreds of thousands of children, or ask someone else to do it for me, to compel the return of my family.

Do you have children?

Yes. And I don't teach them to cause unlimited suffering for their own benefit.

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Not much different than 19th century America slavery and Trail of Tears or 16th century Spanish conquistadors. It's ethno-nationalist supremacy by a powerful group believing they are superior to others who are seen as "animals".

> It's ethno-nationalist supremacy by a powerful group believing they are superior to others who are seen as "animals".

And this largely encapsulates the original definition of racism/racialism; it was far more extreme than hating some other race (which has become the modern dictionary definition). Hating Mexicans who (you incorrectly believe) are taking jobs that Americans would have filled is a very different mental state to believing that a group of humans is no better than animals (thereby "justifying" horrific acts like slavery and concentration camps).

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