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Re: What even is 'adult' content? [NSFW]

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Post by tjs8rj »

krapp wrote: post #114
tjs8rj wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So China and Japan are abrahamic? India is abrahamic? Every civilization on earth has norms against public nudity. Seems to be something more fundamental than blaming abrahamic religions

The context of this thread and the linked article implies that we aren't discussing every civilization on Earth. I apologize for not explicitly having stated that, sometimes I forget that this is HN, where nuance and context go to die. Norms against nudity within Western societies - excluding non-Western societies such as in China, Japan and India - are based on Abrahamic religions. It is true that other non-Western…

Norms against nudity being based on abrahamic religions is still wrong.

It’s like saying norms against murder are based on abrahamic religions because the 10 commandments say so.

Cultures the world over have general norms against nudity in nearly all contexts, and also have norms against murder in nearly all contexts. Clearly the driving force that makes humans have norms against nudity or murder is more fundamental than religion.

Abrahamic religions may add a particular flavor to it, but it’s icing on a big cake

Anthropologically, given that every mass civilization that’s ever existed regulated nudity in public settings, there’s likely some sociological advantage to it that enables communities of people to reach scale and endure.

Do you have a single counter example of a large scale human community (10,000+ people) where public nudity was normal?

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Post by kingkawn »

Lockyy wrote: post #137
9x39 wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you celebrate the choice of entering sex work like, say, that of someone entering medicine or law? “You’d make such a good porn star!”, we could say encouragingly to a new grad considering between OF and Stanford. No, we wouldn’t, because despite a weird and deliberate normalizing effort in some corners of the Internet, it’s an intrinsically degrading field run by pimps physical or digital now, and an existenti…

A person having sex is not intrinsically degrading.

It is if they do it with people who think lowly of sex workers

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Post by actsasbuffoon »

zakki wrote: post #160
danbruc wrote: post #90

Why is this discussion always about nudity and sexuality? Would it not be much better if children see people having fun fucking each other than seeing people murder each other in countless ways? Why is it more acceptable to show Wile E. Coyote trying to murder Road Runner by dropping anvils onto him than showing Bugs Bunny and Lola Bunny fuck each other? Ignoring for the moment that children probably find the former…

I believe if we took that path (children see people having fun fucking each other), we will see more 9yo pregnant girls going to school. Are you ready as a parent?

Pornography has never been easier to access and teen birth rates have been falling for decades.

Once puberty hormones kick in, teenagers are going to start figuring out that there’s something going on. We’re far better off educating them about the risks involved rather than letting them blindly experiment.

Pornography is probably the worst way to accomplish this goal, of course. Comprehensive sexual health education is vastly preferred. But pretending sex doesn’t exist is how you end up with pregnant kids.

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Post by homeonthemtn »

ciupicri wrote: post #63
homeonthemtn wrote: post #5

This is a relic mindset from the start of the Internet. The website itself even visually reflects that. Is there a marginal grey area around adult content? Yes. But beyond that margin is a vast ocean of explicit, intentional adult content. As someone who grew up in both the decentralized "new" era of the Internet, and now lives in the hyper localized algo driven version of it... It's all shit. And I'd never want my k…

I want kids to have the same freedom I had.

I really, truly don't. I was exposed to so much insane traumatizing content in near every setting. I want my kids no where near any of that.

That's the thing with this whole discussion though. both of these asks are totally reasonable My kids should have freedom to explore | my kids should not be exposed to violence and crude sexual content despite my best efforts to moderate their Internet usage

But the responses are overwhelmingly lopsided

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Post by do_not_redeem »

9x39 wrote: post #150
do_not_redeem wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not every job is glamorous. Would you be proud of your child for becoming a garbage man? "You'd make such a good garbage man!", we could say encouragingly to a new grad considering between sanitization engineering and Stanford. Probably not, yet society depends on garbagemen to function smoothly. And we should be happy that in the modern era people can pursue unglamorous careers, and be accepted by society, and not s…

Garbage collection is similar to other male trades - they tend to be stable, respectable (although not the level of law/med to be sure but certainly among blue collar work), often well paid for the entry reqs. Did humans stop abusing one another and I missed it, and all the harms of being used sexually by the world are gone now? >It's only a dwindling number of bigots who look down on people because of their career c…

> A quarter of women think sex work should be stigmatised, says poll

Aren't we lucky that 25% of women have a strong man like you to protect them from the other 75% of women.

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Post by [deleted] »

pmlnr wrote: post #172
jodrellblank wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The USA has people taking part in the World Naked Bike Rides and the Folsom Street Fair, but the USA has "norms against public nudity". The millions of people going outside each day are not naked or expecting to see others naked. That's a "norm" and it applies to Japan as well; clothed is normal, the exceptions are few and constrained to a few places/situations/events. A photo of a Japanese public space, would you ex…

However, shungas are fine, mangas are fine, and so there's nudity there. Nudity doesn't only mean people on the street without clothes.

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Post by bloak »

hellojesus wrote: post #123
Barrin92 wrote: post #29

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>It's a much bigger question why, such a completely natural and normal thing, like nudity, [...] be made and exclusive thing. As Nietzsche said, the time has come when we have to pay for having been Christians for two thousand years. That's the simple answer, nudity and sexuality (also entirely natural and normal), have been deemed sinful, you're supposed to avert your eyes from it, and so on. It's so deeply ingraine…

> it is funny to see in particular Americans when you talk about nude beaches or mixed saunas and the general Freikörperkultur (lit: free body culture) that was so common and still has carried over How is general nudity of adult men considered by those participants? I always assumed that my nakedness would be perceived as a display of mateability, and I am concerned that my penis size relative to other men would redu…

Most women are not interested in penis size. (Though some are, obviously.)

At a normal nude beach, with all age groups represented, people don't show off an erect penis. (Though there are beaches where that happens.)

Median erect penis length is about 13-14 cm and I don't think there's credible evidence for the median varying much between countries of Europe and North America. (Though there is some evidence for a smaller or larger median in some places outside Europe and North America.)

Does that help? (I'm not an expert but I think I know enough to write what I have just written.)

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Post by spacemadness »

ta1243 wrote: post #169
spacemadness wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You might want to rethink your perceived timeline for how sexuality works in practice for teenagers if you’re waiting to talk to them on schedule. Source: was a teenager.

You clearly have no idea about parenting if you think all you have to do is have "a talk" Healthy is a continual conversation from aged 8 through 18

I never said anything of the sort. You just seemed to be on a strict timeline. Have a nice day and good luck.

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Post by munksbeer »

homeonthemtn wrote: post #5

This is a relic mindset from the start of the Internet. The website itself even visually reflects that. Is there a marginal grey area around adult content? Yes. But beyond that margin is a vast ocean of explicit, intentional adult content. As someone who grew up in both the decentralized "new" era of the Internet, and now lives in the hyper localized algo driven version of it... It's all shit. And I'd never want my k…

> it's all shit. And I'd never want my kids to be exposed to it.

They are going to be, they're just now going to be exposed to more shadier, less scrupulous stuff, or via vpns harvesting your children's data.

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