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The Promised LAN

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Re: The Promised LAN

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Post by jasonm23 »

fc417fc802 wrote: post #134
omnicognate wrote: post #128

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I don't know why we're even having this debate, but this thread is in response to someone literally complaining they didn't say what games they play on it (as if they necessarily even do). They've given plenty of technical info about it - certainly more than they're obliged to, which is none - and anyone who would do something like this is going to do it their own way anyway. I'm clearly in the target audience as I'm…

Probably because I'm in the same camp as the person you originally responded to. It's an intriguing project and clearly a lot of effort has gone into it so I'm left wondering about how it's being used. If I were going to build something similar (as they advocate) what might I use it for? > around half of the people on the LAN have thermal receipt printers with open access, for printing out quips or jokes on each othe…

You might just want to look at setting up a friends only WireGuard, or Tailscale network.

Re: The Promised LAN

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Post by jasonm23 »

bongodongobob wrote: post #67
CursedSilicon wrote: post #49

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"We're going to write paragraphs about how cool this project is but also it's all on the LAN and it's invite-only so don't ask"

I don't see how this is any different from someone sharing a homelab setup or something.

That'll be because essentially it's no different.

Re: The Promised LAN

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Post by fc417fc802 »

jasonm23 wrote: post #181
fc417fc802 wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably because I'm in the same camp as the person you originally responded to. It's an intriguing project and clearly a lot of effort has gone into it so I'm left wondering about how it's being used. If I were going to build something similar (as they advocate) what might I use it for? > around half of the people on the LAN have thermal receipt printers with open access, for printing out quips or jokes on each othe…

You might just want to look at setting up a friends only WireGuard, or Tailscale network.

I mean yes, that is how I currently play games but the question was if there were activities other than video games that these guys were using their network for.

Re: The Promised LAN

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Post by 7bit »

KTibow wrote: post #84
hkon wrote: post #50

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I think your definition/setup is the wrongest as it does not capture the spirit. You have a cyber café.

There's a slightly relevant response under "Dragging over your own computers is part of the fun of LAN parties. Why build them in?".

So much fun.... It's so much much fun that LAN parties have gotten bigger and bigger in the past 25 years... Wait, or was it the other way around that this is exactly why people just play over the Internet with each other?

Re: The Promised LAN

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Post by remram »

There's a name for LANs that are not restricted to a local area: "network". Every mention of "LAN" in this entire article can be replaced with "network" without loss of meaning or vibe. Call a cat a cat.

Re: The Promised LAN

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Post by immibis »

tonymet wrote: post #171
immibis wrote: post #164

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Note that encryption is illegal in ham radio - and they don't care that you're tunneling some other protocol for which encryption is standard - it's still illegal. It's possible to use ham skills to make links that are not ham-class though, of course. For example encryption is (typically) legal on ISM band general use licenses (such as used by wifi).

good point on this . Are there bands where licenses are reasonable? i would be interested to rekindle this sort of network with some friends.

I think for a reasonable processing fee you can get a license for a point to point link - but there are probably a bunch of requirements.

The more public resources you want to take for private use the more you can expect it to cost. You might have heard about billion dollar spectrum auctions to companies like Verizon, but that's for the rights to use a certain band within the whole country (for cellphones). When it's just at one location it's a routine process. As I said though might have some requirements like the use of certified equipment - look them up

Re: The Promised LAN

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Post by mhb »

bevr1337 wrote: post #175
icedchai wrote: post #174

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I was an early Internet user (early 90's.) They gave them out to anyone who asked back then.

A little morbid, but have you considered setting up a beneficiary for the allocation or detailing this asset in a will? That's some special, virtual real estate you have there.

What's it worth?

Re: The Promised LAN

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Post by sleepybrett »

b3lvedere wrote: post #147
sleepybrett wrote: post #52

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Back in the hayday of lan parties in like 1995-1997 my only monitor was a absolute boulder of a 21" viewsonic (this is pre flatscreen or rather pre decent flatscreens, you could get like 15-17s but they were expensive and absolute trash). One night coming home from the bars, half drunk, in an alley my friend and I found an abandoned (maybe..) horizontal-able handtruck. Made the lan party load unload so much better.

In the previous century i visited many lan parties with my absolute beast of a pc case (an old Siemens 4U 19" metal monster where i stuffed an Amd Athlon setup in with a bunch of harddrives) that i got for free from somewhere. Then carried the huge CRT screen and placed it on top of it. It was insane, i was young (and insane), but i got it all dirt cheap. Most people loved it. And even back then repurposing discarded…

the height of 'gpu' in my lan party days was a voodoo 2 card.

Re: The Promised LAN

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Post by [deleted] »

9x39 wrote: post #54
sneak wrote: post #44

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To me, one of the defining features of a LAN party is a single broadcast domain. I thought that is what this was, at first, but it is actually an L3 overlay network with DNS and BGP and the whole nine yards. Somewhat a stretch for a LAN. :D

Absolutely. I think while plenty of games now can rely on UDP hole punching or file sharing can be done with centralized cloud storage, part of the earlier LAN appeal was sharing a segment together and all the ease that brought. OS's like Windows can easily share folders and printers, games (particularly older ones) run LAN discovery off of broadcasts, and the lot. Sure, sometimes you can route it, but when I think L…

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Re: The Promised LAN

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Post by thesnide »

brudgers wrote: post #64
kentonv wrote: post #28

Heh, of all arguably-valid definitions of "LAN Party" I think this one is as far away from mine as you can get. Traditional LAN party: Everyone brings their computers to one place to connect via a LAN, where they play games, swap files, demo stuff to each other, etc. My LAN party: All my friends come over to my house and use the computers that I have already set up for them. Nobody brings their own. The point is to i…

If you aren’t using IPX/SPX, it isn’t a real LAN party. Or there’s true Scotsman all the way down to the turtle.

exactly. that said, [ipxwrapper] (https://www.solemnwarning.net/ipxwrapper/) goes a very long way doing favors without needing a VPN, just an ipxrelay.
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