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You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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Re: You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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Post by cess11 »

dkersten wrote: post #85
eikenberry wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Zed is not a great modal editor, modality is a strapped on afterthought. At least that the impression the vim keybinding give me. IMO the best chance I see for a fast modal editor that works out of the box is Helix.

When did you last try Zed? If it was recently then that hasn’t quite matched my experience, for me vim keybindings work quite well. But I did think the same when I first used Zed over a year ago.

Is it now possible to import .vimrc, or otherwise configure e.g. the sequence j k to execute Escape?

Re: You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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Post by eikenberry »

dkersten wrote: post #85
eikenberry wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Zed is not a great modal editor, modality is a strapped on afterthought. At least that the impression the vim keybinding give me. IMO the best chance I see for a fast modal editor that works out of the box is Helix.

When did you last try Zed? If it was recently then that hasn’t quite matched my experience, for me vim keybindings work quite well. But I did think the same when I first used Zed over a year ago.

I tried it a couple days ago. Lost me right off with the poor `:e` experience; popup box with no completion, fuzzy-matching, sub-directory support. Vim is a file oriented editor, not a project oriented one, so good file operations are table stakes.

Re: You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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Post by opan »

nurumaik wrote: post #149
vlod wrote: post #124

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Learning a terminal editor will save your ass at 3am when production goes down. No joke.

Learning a client-server editor will save your nerves when developing on a remote machine with 200ms ping

Vim and emacs both also support editing remote files.

Re: You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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Post by gherkinnn »

crooked-v wrote: post #4

What I'd really like is an option to disable the automatic multi-buffer behavior for things like git diffs. It just doesn't work for me, and the Zed UX seems to not even realize that not everyone will love it.

The multi buffer is the most amazing thing about Zed. AI be damned. It now feels wrong to use an editor that doesn't have it. It is so obvious in hindsight.

Re: You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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Post by eikenberry »

f311a wrote: post #42
deadbabe wrote: post #21

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Why? Neovim exists.

I don’t want to install 5-10 plugins with a hundreds of config lines just to make it usable. I prefer zed with 0 extensions and vim motions which are built in.

I switched to Helix for the same reason. Though I'm thinking of re-trying with one of the lighter weight pre-configured versions. Astronvim seems like the best one after a bit of weekend research.

Re: You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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Post by hombre_fatal »

gwking wrote: post #41

I went from VS Code to Cursor, then got frustrated with Cursor breaking keybindings and other things, tried to go back to VS Code but missed the superior tab completion. Then I gave Zed a long hard try, but after over a month of daily usage I went back to Cursor again, just for the tab completion quality. I don't use any of the chat or agent features, but for me Cursor's tab completion is a step forward in work effic…

The tab completion is the only thing that keeps me on Cursor.

I never cared for the LLM sidebar.

But the tab completion is basically mind-reading.

Re: You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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Post by comprev »

ivanjermakov wrote: post #170

> Our goal at Zed has always been to build the world’s best code editor. Not true, Zed goal is > code editor [with] high-performance collaboration with humans and AI

> code editor [with] high-performance collaboration with humans and AI

When investors are involved this immediately changes to:

> Our goal is to build a product which will hopefully return more than our financial investment.

I get the feeling many HN contributors to this discussion forget that Zed is not a software project like Neovim, Nano or Emacs (etc.) which rely on donations and/or sponsors to either pay developers or cover required infrastructure costs.

It's a product backed by investors who - one day - will demand their pound of flesh, and "features" like AI are added to market the product to _more_ investors.

Perhaps the use of AI itself inside the product will also be tracked to steer potential opportunities for the investors themselves.

Like many fellow HN'ers, I use Zed on a daily basis, and it's no different than Google search or Facebook - "If a product from investors is free, YOU are the product"

Re: You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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Post by serbuvlad »

The one thing I love about VSCode is how trivially I can fire it up on a container or on a remote machine via SSH. If Zed had this I would switch tomorrow.

So my question for Zed users is: does it?

The UI is a tad idiosyncratic on Linux (can't speak for Macs) but DAMN is it fast, I love the generality of tasks.json (haven't played with debug.json yet), by far the best system I've ever used, and everything just works well out the gate.

Re: You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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Post by grinich »

mikaylamaki wrote: post #179
jchw wrote: post #117

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Ah yeah, they have a CLA that forces you to give them a carte blanche copyright license to contributions and they also restrict dependencies to be ones with permissive licensing too. Pretty obvious what's going on here. I hate seeing it happen, though.

FWIW, we plan to sell "enterprise" builds of Zed with SSO, centralized plugin repositories, business-hosted infra, etc. etc. The sorts of features developers don't care about but businesses do. To do that, we have to be able to re-license the codebase and apply these changes. We have a lot of other ideas for business sustainability but the core, offline code editing experience will always be freely available and open…

Hey - I'm the founder of WorkOS. Happy to chat about the playbook we see with OSS projects spinning-off a commercial offering. It's pretty common and we work with a lot of these businesses, enabling them to continue investment in the ecosystem too. mg@workos.com
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