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Re: Brave blocks Microsoft Recall by default

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Post by dartharva »

999900000999 wrote: post #124
varbhat wrote: post #17

Until the time when Microsoft realises this and creates a privileged API just for Microsoft Recall so that It can see the screen. Better switch to Linux. It's not perfect but I am sure that you will be fine using Linux(Unless you want to use Adobe Suite or Few Corporate applications which won't be used by many)

Linux is great if you're hardware is supported. I've never been able to get Linux working right on one of my laptops, on another only rolling releases work. These rolling releases like to break every 3 to 6 months. Windows is much more stable on both laptops. With my mini PC eGPU combo Linux just won't recognize the eGpu at all.

I might have one of the very rare cases where my laptop works much better with Linux than with Windows (both 10 and 11).

Both Wifi and Bluetooth doesn't work on a fresh Windows install, I have to physically connect a USB DVD player to install the drivers from the DVD that came with the package (in 2024! btw). On Linux everything just works out-of-the-box. Okay maybe not everything, I did have to patch my kernel for bluetooth drivers, but other than that it's a LOT smoother in every way than on Windows.

Re: Brave blocks Microsoft Recall by default

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Post by [deleted] »

poulpy123 wrote: post #160
deadbabe wrote: post #19

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Why not Linux?

For the same reason that I didn't replace my linux at home and at works by windows: because they have different strengths. Windows has for it: - the gazillion software, free or crazily expensive, that do not exist on linux - the hardware compatibility, whatever is built, it is with windows on mind - the office file formats that are the de facto standart - the software installation model that is very crap but infinite…

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Re: Brave blocks Microsoft Recall by default

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Post by __rito__ »

chromiummmm wrote: post #148
aaronmdjones wrote: post #142

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I go one step further. I have a Windows PC primarily for gaming, on its own physical LAN all to itself, that can only talk to the Internet (not any other LANs). I have an almost-identical PC (sans GPU) for Linux Mint, which I do all of my actually important or meaningful work on. Like you alluded to, I never use the Windows PC for anything else -- nothing even remotely sensitive -- nothing with identification like lo…

What about steam chat, discord, etc?

I am using Discord in Firefox for years without any issues. I also created a container for it after containers became a thing.

I use Discord only for programming groups, study groups, etc. Not for games or in-game chatting.

Re: Brave blocks Microsoft Recall by default

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Post by bigstrat2003 »

vips7L wrote: post #158
freeone3000 wrote: post #89

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Right, but thanks to Proton that’s just not relevant? Blue Prince, Clair Obscure, Lost Records, The Alters, Doom: The Dark Ages, Oblivion Remastered, South of Midnight… all run just fine on Steam on linux.

Every single game you mentioned has some sort of tinker step reported on protondb even though it may be marked platinum. Here’s the one for oblivion: DRI_PRIME=1 WINEDLLOVERRIDES="xaudio2_7=n,b" PULSE_LATENCY_MSEC=90 %command% Or maybe it’s this one that the next user reported… DXIL_SPIRV_CONFIG=wmma_fp8_hack FSR4_UPGRADE=1 game-performance %command% I personally don’t want to have to do stuff like that to get them t…

I haven't played most of those games, but I can at least attest that I could run Clair Obscur with no tinkering whatsoever. A lot of times even if some people had to tinker with a game, you will be just fine and not have to tinker.

Re: Brave blocks Microsoft Recall by default

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Post by 0x000xca0xfe »

bitexploder wrote: post #46
varbhat wrote: post #17

Until the time when Microsoft realises this and creates a privileged API just for Microsoft Recall so that It can see the screen. Better switch to Linux. It's not perfect but I am sure that you will be fine using Linux(Unless you want to use Adobe Suite or Few Corporate applications which won't be used by many)

You have to opt in to Recall. You must have a “Copilot+ PC” which has an “NPU”. The snapshots are stored and processed locally.

Even if processing and storage is local, it is just too damn easy to abuse the feature from remote.

Imagine how useful it would be for software vendors (Microsoft included): "We have implemented new feature X, how are our users interacting with it? Let's ask their Recall AI about it".

This could essentially become telemetry on steroids.

In the start telemetry was seen as outrageously user-hostile spying, too. Look where we are now. We are all frogs, at least Microsoft is banking on it.

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Post by falcor84 »

Eggpants wrote: post #174
roetlich wrote: post #87

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Then don't turn it on?

This “feature” was made for corporate owned window machines, who will force it enabled via policies.

Exactly, and I think that the real goal is for enterprises (and MS itself) to collect training data for Computer Use AI agents.

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Post by ubermonkey »

Moomoomoo309 wrote: post #30
ubermonkey wrote: post #24

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I'm not who you asked, but the reason I migrated to Macs years ago, and the reason I stay, is that I don't want my computer to be a maintenance hobby unto itself. I need to do actual work. I also enjoy the polish Apple provides in other ways -- the platform features you get if you're on a Mac, use an iPhone, have a Watch, etc, are all pretty great. Cobbling together something like that on my own under Linux probably…

Linux isn't a maintenance hobby unto itself if you don't make it one. After the initial migration struggles (which you'll get on MacOS too), if you choose a boring distro like Debian, the maintenance burden is similar to Windows. Lots of Linux users love customizing the crap out of their stuff, so it becomes one, but it isn't inherently like that if you keep your configuration somewhat close to stock on whatever dist…

"Similar to Windows" is not a great rec, IMO.

Re: Brave blocks Microsoft Recall by default

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Post by ubermonkey »

sdoering wrote: post #31
ubermonkey wrote: post #24

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I'm not who you asked, but the reason I migrated to Macs years ago, and the reason I stay, is that I don't want my computer to be a maintenance hobby unto itself. I need to do actual work. I also enjoy the polish Apple provides in other ways -- the platform features you get if you're on a Mac, use an iPhone, have a Watch, etc, are all pretty great. Cobbling together something like that on my own under Linux probably…

YMMV I switched from Mac to WIN a few years ago, because maintaining MB Pros became a nightmare, after having had six burned mainboards (with Macbook Pro devices each) within 3 years. I had definitely enough. Happy my former employer had to shell out the money for repairs/replacements. But each time getting back into a workable state with my backups still took north of two days. And while for my day job I still need…

>getting back into a workable state with my backups still took north of two days.

It sounds like you're not very good at backups, then.

I've only ever needed to do a real DR once, after we were robbed, but my Time Machine restore had my replacement Macbook up, runing, and with my application states in place within about 2 hours.

>longer battery life

As an Apple Silicon user, I doubt that. ;)

Re: Brave blocks Microsoft Recall by default

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Post by 999900000999 »

subjectsigma wrote: post #145
999900000999 wrote: post #124

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Linux is great if you're hardware is supported. I've never been able to get Linux working right on one of my laptops, on another only rolling releases work. These rolling releases like to break every 3 to 6 months. Windows is much more stable on both laptops. With my mini PC eGPU combo Linux just won't recognize the eGpu at all.

Never post anything like this on HN, you will get a torrent of people A) trying to help, but not being very helpful B) telling you that you’re dumb C) telling you that you’re holding it wrong and that you need different software/hardware/preferences/etc. I have had tons of grief with NVIDIA cards that work stellar on Windows and the answer I always get talking to Linux folks is “LOL NVIDIA? You’re an idiot for buying…

I welcome a good conversation.

Linux still isn't really ready for normal people who have other things to do.

Arguably if it's within your budget and you just want your computer to work, buy a Mac.

I make music and I don't want to fiddle with external drives so I'm basically stuck on Windows.

My biggest issue with Macs is not being able to replace the SSD. Eventually all SSDs must fail. Might not be in 2 years, might be in 6 or 7, but at that point the entire laptop is useless.

Re: Brave blocks Microsoft Recall by default

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Post by ubermonkey »

creakingstairs wrote: post #72
sdoering wrote: post #31

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YMMV I switched from Mac to WIN a few years ago, because maintaining MB Pros became a nightmare, after having had six burned mainboards (with Macbook Pro devices each) within 3 years. I had definitely enough. Happy my former employer had to shell out the money for repairs/replacements. But each time getting back into a workable state with my backups still took north of two days. And while for my day job I still need…

Can’t say I blame you after such an experience. To give another data point, I don’t think I’ve ever had any of my MacBooks fail. My old ones are still happily being used by my in-laws. That being said, I am eyeing up Framework for next laptop.

Yeah, same here -- my Macbooks (and the Powerbooks before them) have been the most solid, reliable, and long-lived laptops of my entire life (and I'm 55).

I'm still using a 10 year old one as a poor-man's-NAS-controller. And the backup system that ships with the tool is insanely solid -- while I don't trust any single backup solution alone, the one time I did have to recover from backup (we were robbed), Time Machine had my new machine in exactly the same state as my stolen one within about 2h. I'm sure with faster bus speeds and drives now, it'd be even faster.

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