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It's rude to show AI output to people

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Re: It's rude to show AI output to people

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I really wish some of my coworkers would stop using LLMs to write me emails or even Teams messages. It does feel extremely rude, to the point I don't even want to read them anymore.

I know people with disabilities that struggle with writing. They feel that AI enables them to express themselves better than they could without the help. I know that’s not necessarily what you’re dealing with but it’s worth considering.

Re: It's rude to show AI output to people

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I really don’t think they’re the same thing. Email or letter, the words are yours while an LLM output isn’t.

Initially, it had the same effect on people until they got used to it. In the near future, whether the text is yours or not won't matter. What will matter is the message or idea you're communicating. Just like today, it doesn't matter if the code is yours, only the product you're shipping and problem it's solving.

Doesn't matter today? What are you even talking about? It completely matters if the code you write is yours. The only people saying otherwise have fallen prey to the cult of slop.

Re: It's rude to show AI output to people

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Why? AI is a tool. Are their messages incorrect or something? If not who cares, they’re being efficient and thus more productive. Please be honest. If it’s slop or they have incorrect information in the message, then my bad, stop reading here. Otherwise… I really hope people like this with holier than thou attitude get filtered out. Fast. People who don’t adapt to use new tools are some of the worst people to work ar…

If it took you no time to write it, I'll spend no time reading it. The holier than thou people are the ones who are telling us genAI is inevitable, it's here to stay, we should use it as a matter of rote, we'll be left out if we don't, it's going to change everything, blah blah blah. These are articles of faith, and I'm sorry but I'm not a believer in the religion of AI.

How do you know the effort that went into the message? Somebody with writing challenges may have written the whole thing up and used ai assistance to help get a better outcome. They may have proof-read and revised the generated message. You sound very judgmental.

Re: It's rude to show AI output to people

#184

A lot of the reason why I even ask other people is not to get a simple technical answer but to connect, understand another person's unexepected thoughts, and maybe forge a collaboration –– in addition to getting an answer of course. Real people come up with so many side paths and thoughts, whereas AI feels lifeless and drab. To me, someone pasting in an AI answer says: I don't care about any of that. Yeah, not a pers…

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Re: It's rude to show AI output to people

#185
post #91

I love the post but disagree with the first example. "I asked ChatGPT and this is what it said: ". That seems totally fine to me. The sender put work into the prompt and the user is free to read the AI output if they choose.

I think in any real conversation, you're treating AI as this authority figure to end the conversation, despite the fact it could easily be wrong. I would extract the logic out and defend the logic on your own feet to be less rude.

And what if you let a human expert fact-check the output of an LLM? Provided you're transparent about the output (and its preceding prompt(s)) ?

Because I'd much rather ask an LLM about a topic I don't know much about and let a human expert verify its contents than waste the time of a human expert in explaining the concept to me.

Once it's verified, I add it to my own documentation library so that I can refer to it later on.

Re: It's rude to show AI output to people

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If it took you no time to write it, I'll spend no time reading it. The holier than thou people are the ones who are telling us genAI is inevitable, it's here to stay, we should use it as a matter of rote, we'll be left out if we don't, it's going to change everything, blah blah blah. These are articles of faith, and I'm sorry but I'm not a believer in the religion of AI.

How do you know the effort that went into the message? Somebody with writing challenges may have written the whole thing up and used ai assistance to help get a better outcome. They may have proof-read and revised the generated message. You sound very judgmental.

And you sound very ableist. Why should we expect people who may have a cognitive disability of some kind to cloak that with technology, rather than us giving them the grace to communicate how they like on their terms?

Re: It's rude to show AI output to people

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post #126

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Initially, it had the same effect on people until they got used to it. In the near future, whether the text is yours or not won't matter. What will matter is the message or idea you're communicating. Just like today, it doesn't matter if the code is yours, only the product you're shipping and problem it's solving.

Doesn't matter today? What are you even talking about? It completely matters if the code you write is yours. The only people saying otherwise have fallen prey to the cult of slop.

Why does it matter where the code came from if it is correct?

Re: It's rude to show AI output to people

#188

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Doesn't matter today? What are you even talking about? It completely matters if the code you write is yours. The only people saying otherwise have fallen prey to the cult of slop.

Why does it matter where the code came from if it is correct?

Why does it matter where the paint came from if it looks pretty?

Why does it matter where the legal claims came from if a judge accepts them?

Why does it matter where the sound waves came from if it sounds catchy?

Why does it matter?

Why does anything matter?

Sorry, I normally love debating epistemology but not here on Hacker News. :)

Re: It's rude to show AI output to people

#189

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Why does it matter where the code came from if it is correct?

Why does it matter where the paint came from if it looks pretty? Why does it matter where the legal claims came from if a judge accepts them? Why does it matter where the sound waves came from if it sounds catchy? Why does it matter? Why does anything matter? Sorry, I normally love debating epistemology but not here on Hacker News. :)

I understand the points about aesthetics but not law; the judge is there to interpret legal arguments and a lawyer who presents an argument with false premises, like a fabricated case, is being irresponsible. It is very similar with coding, except the judge is a PM.

It does not seem to matter where the code nor the legal argument came from. What matters is that they are coherent.

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