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Re: US Defense Department will stop providing satellite weather data

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Post by lurkshark »

lenkite wrote: post #180
lurkshark wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn’t really expect a Trump administration spokesperson to put out a statement critical of the Trump administration’s decision.

This is Congress 2015 decision. The Trump administration extended the deadline by another month.

The congressional decision was to scrap the continued development of the DMSP satellites, not to decommission the existing ones or stop the data sharing arrangement. The DoD confirmed the DMSP is still operating and will continue to do so but the data sharing is what they have now decided to cut off.

It also looks like one of the “next-generation” systems, the JPSS, has been ordered to operate in maintenance mode.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/amid-trump-cuts-n...

Re: US Defense Department will stop providing satellite weather data

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Post by lenkite »

lurkshark wrote: post #181
lenkite wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is Congress 2015 decision. The Trump administration extended the deadline by another month.

The congressional decision was to scrap the continued development of the DMSP satellites, not to decommission the existing ones or stop the data sharing arrangement. The DoD confirmed the DMSP is still operating and will continue to do so but the data sharing is what they have now decided to cut off. It also looks like one of the “next-generation” systems, the JPSS, has been ordered to operate in maintenance mode. ht…

Well, the history of the existing satellites shows that many of them have exploded:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_Meteorological_Satelli...

AFAIK, Congress voted in 2015 to terminate the whole DMSP program. There was no mention of continuation of "data sharing" or anything like that, as you suggest. I guess in the DOGE budget cleanup of DoD, terminated programs are really being terminated instead of continuing to operate under the radar.

Regarding JPSS - that article says that new JPSS satellites are scheduled to be launched. I agree that the "minimum mission operations approach" doesn't make much sense if that is the case. My guess is that this is a stupid cost cutting move that will most likely be rolled back after pushback.

Re: US Defense Department will stop providing satellite weather data

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Post by jimnotgym »

GiorgioG wrote: post #178
jimnotgym wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You may recall that Europe has its own card schemes, but the UK doesn't join them, because of the 'special relationship'. The UK was forced by the US to abandon TSR2, the best jet in the world, to get a cash bailout from the US, that it needed after all of the years fighting WW2 on its own...it spent all of its money buying material...from the USA. The UK invented lots of key military equipment, Radar, proximity fuse…

I don't recall Europe having its own global card schemes. The TSR-2 was abandoned due to cost overruns. The F-111 would have been cheaper...but even that was abandoned and eventually the Tornado came along...not a US aircraft. The flow of military inventions flowed both ways during WW2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_technological_cooperati... Maybe if you hadn't had a coward as a leader in Chamberlain we would…

>The TSR-2 was abandoned due to cost overruns. The F-111 would have been cheaper...but even that was abandoned and eventually the Tornado came along...not a US aircraft.

Well done for skim reading Wikipedia. That is pretty much the excerpt from the top of the page shortened even more to take out key details.

Tsr2 was cancelled in 1965. Tornado entered service in the 1980s. Big gap to have no planes at all...

>The F-111 would have been cheaper

"It was decided to order an adapted version of the General Dynamics F-111 instead, but that decision was also later rescinded as costs and development times increased."

Filled in the gap for you

Tsr2 was cancelled due to American blackmail, neo-colonial bullying. A skim read of Wikipedia doesn't refute it

Re: US Defense Department will stop providing satellite weather data

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Post by TheRealPomax »

verandaguy wrote: post #90
TheRealPomax wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's what got us here in the first place, maybe stop doing that.

"Sit tight and assess" as used above is probably a reference to the movie "Don't Look Up" from a few years ago, which (heavy-handedly) parodied administrations like Trump I (and which unortunately seem much less like parody in the Trump II era).

having literally never heard of this, despite being in North America, it's a good idea to not make assumptions about who's seen which pop culture thing.
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