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Re: Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos you haven’t yet shared

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Post by cornfieldlabs »

cornfieldlabs wrote: post #124
motoxpro wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the difference between this and a group chat? Most people have If the posts are more long form, what is the difference between this and a blog where the "secret code" is the URL? Or even a finsta account currated the way you want. I don't say these as a "it's not gonna work" as in consumer its about the experience, I genuinely wonder why the experience will be better

These are very valid questions , thanks for asking them. > Group chat Group chats work when everyone in one know each other. I have N different circles which don't overlap so group doesn't chat makes sense. Messages in group chat are more "in the face" - everyone has to. I just wanted a place where I can dump my thoughts without feeling like seeking immediate attention. > Blog PostX is indeed something like a private…

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> Blog

PostX is indeed something like a private blogging space. It's something I wanted for myself.

Honestly I am not fully sure how it's going to be used by people but I have bi uilt something me and my friends like and use.

Re: Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos you haven’t yet shared

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Post by nottorp »

rickdeckard wrote: post #180
nottorp wrote: post #179

Hmm I don't post photos privately on FB, and I maybe post one public photo every 2-3 years. What can I use to "poison" their training? I'll just send them privately to the friends that would consider that fun.

According to the article they want to upload and process "selected pictures from your camera roll" to make suggestions. Now the definition may vary, but the camera roll is probably the list of images on your phone (which the app accesses when you pick an image to post), not a list of pictures you already posted privately...

Oh... that ain't going to happen. I don't have any Facebook apps on my phone nor i'm signed into the site in the browser.

(Or so I hope.)

Re: Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos you haven’t yet shared

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Post by fivestones »

cornfieldlabs wrote: post #178
fivestones wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you really planning to not allow photos? I understand your reasoning for why this works in places a group chat wouldn’t, and I have group chats that I wish could do what your site does (share things to all my friends but we don’t all have to have all the same friends). But something I really appreciate about some of those group chats, especially smaller ones like a group of three, are the photos that friends post…

Thanks for the response Many early adopters have asked for photo support so we will be definitely supporting it in the next release. We are just trying to figure out how to do it without it turning into a clout-chasing machine.

Awesome. I was going to say just don’t have a way to like photos, but then I don’t know if that solves the clout-chasing problem.

Re: Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos you haven’t yet shared

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Post by bregma »

kevingadd wrote: post #9

This seems like a liability nightmare. If they're just scanning all the image files on people's devices and using them for training, they're inevitably going to scoop up nudes without permission, not to mention the occasional CSAM or gore photo, right? Why would you want to risk having stuff like that sneak into your training set when you already have access to all people's public photos?

They have already captured federal regulation in the USA. If a federal agent decides to prosecute, it's one press of the "you're FIRED!" button.

Re: Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos you haven’t yet shared

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Post by noisy_boy »

jurschreuder wrote: post #142

They're also developing VR glasses. The company that is destroying children's mental health with phone addiction is developing VR glasses. I guess nobody cares

> nobody cares

Some people do but other people don't elect them.

Re: Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos you haven’t yet shared

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Post by conartist6 »

p_l wrote: post #175
southernplaces7 wrote: post #173

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One reads completely ridiculous cases like the one you describe, and shakes their head at those who preach the notion of creating ever more thickets of AI "powered" bots as a prima facie interface for our social services, customer support and other institutional interaction needs. Idiocies like this are why AI should absolutely never (at least at any present level of technology) be an inescapable means of filtering h…

I worked on a project where one of the services was a model that decided whether to pay a medical bill. Before you start justified screams of horror, let me explain the simple honesty trick that ensured proper ethics, though I guess at cost of profit unacceptable to some corporations: The model could only decide between auto approving a repayment, or refer the bill to existing human staff. The entire idea was that th…

Mmmmhm, which means the humans now understand that they should be callous and cold. If they're not rubber stamping rejections all the time then the AI isn't doing anything useful by making a feed of easy-to-reject applications.

The system will become evil even if it has humans in it because they have been given no power to resist the incentives

Re: Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos you haven’t yet shared

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Post by Esophagus4 »

msgodel wrote: post #32
aetherspawn wrote: post #29

iOS -> Settings -> Privacy and Security -> Photos -> Facebook -> Set limited access

You'd have to block nearly every app from ever seeing any image you don't want Facebook getting ahold of including apps that are made by other companies. Almost everyone uses their libraries, they practically have a shell on your phone (which is funny because you're not allowed that on your own device for "security.")

Argh… I didn’t even think about that

Re: Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos you haven’t yet shared

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Post by osmsucks »

squigz wrote: post #152

Hasn't Facebook (and pretty much all major social media platforms) had a clause in their TOS giving them a license to whatever you upload to their services, since forever?

I forget the exact language, but I think it originally accounted for use of only public media in "marketing and promotional" material, so it didn't include private photos and ML training. This seems to be a step up (or, down, I guess) from that.

Re: Facebook is asking to use Meta AI on photos you haven’t yet shared

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Post by rglullis »

conartist6 wrote: post #186
p_l wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I worked on a project where one of the services was a model that decided whether to pay a medical bill. Before you start justified screams of horror, let me explain the simple honesty trick that ensured proper ethics, though I guess at cost of profit unacceptable to some corporations: The model could only decide between auto approving a repayment, or refer the bill to existing human staff. The entire idea was that th…

Mmmmhm, which means the humans now understand that they should be callous and cold. If they're not rubber stamping rejections all the time then the AI isn't doing anything useful by making a feed of easy-to-reject applications. The system will become evil even if it has humans in it because they have been given no power to resist the incentives

> humans now understand that they should be callous and cold

Were humans working on health insurance claims previously known for being warm and tend to err on the side of the patient?

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