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DeepSeek R2 launch stalled as CEO balks at progress

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Re: DeepSeek R2 launch stalled as CEO balks at progress

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Post by rvnx »

tonfa wrote: post #179
MichaelZuo wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does this matter? If the journalists aren’t fully trusted in the first place… trusting them to strictly adhere to even the best codified rules seems even less likely.

Sure, if you don't trust anything what's the point. There's a lot of information that relies on anonymous sources and we usually use third party to vet them (otherwise how would they stay anonymous). Without this system we'd be missing out on a lot of things (if only named sources are used, a lot of things would never come out). (A lot of things break down in society without trust, maybe that's already how the US is?…

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/donald-trumps-big-warning-to...

The Washington Post, The New York Times, The New Republic, The Intercept, Rolling Stone, CBS News, CNN, Newsweek, USA Today, NBC News, Der Spiegel (Germany), The Sunday Times (UK), Daily Mail (UK), Al Jazeera (Qatar), RT (Russia), Xinhua (China), Press TV (Iran), Haaretz (Israel), Le Monde (France), El País (Spain) all have been caught using fake anonymous sources.

Re: DeepSeek R2 launch stalled as CEO balks at progress

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Post by IncreasePosts »

azemetre wrote: post #180
IncreasePosts wrote: post #177

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So you're capable of knowing what the judges will decide on these cases? You've already decided that they are liable for what they're accused of? And, isn't this the system working exactly how it is supposed to? Someone makes a claim and the courts decide, and then some kind of punishment will be doled out of the claim was found to be true?

You're changing the the topic of conversation, you asked for cases and now you want judgements as well.

No, I'm not. You made the claim " I’d think it’d be all the companies in the US ignoring IP and copyright laws" - and then point to ongoing cases, where the outcome hasn't even been decided yet. They may be ignoring IP and copyright laws, but no one knows whether they are or aren't yet.

Re: DeepSeek R2 launch stalled as CEO balks at progress

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Post by MichaelZuo »

tonfa wrote: post #179
MichaelZuo wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does this matter? If the journalists aren’t fully trusted in the first place… trusting them to strictly adhere to even the best codified rules seems even less likely.

Sure, if you don't trust anything what's the point. There's a lot of information that relies on anonymous sources and we usually use third party to vet them (otherwise how would they stay anonymous). Without this system we'd be missing out on a lot of things (if only named sources are used, a lot of things would never come out). (A lot of things break down in society without trust, maybe that's already how the US is?…

Do you not understand what “fully trust” means?

No one I’ve ever heard of on HN fully trusts journalists.

Re: DeepSeek R2 launch stalled as CEO balks at progress

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Post by azemetre »

IncreasePosts wrote: post #182
azemetre wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're changing the the topic of conversation, you asked for cases and now you want judgements as well.

No, I'm not. You made the claim " I’d think it’d be all the companies in the US ignoring IP and copyright laws" - and then point to ongoing cases, where the outcome hasn't even been decided yet. They may be ignoring IP and copyright laws, but no one knows whether they are or aren't yet.

I'm sure the parties suing the defendants feel very differently than you.

Re: DeepSeek R2 launch stalled as CEO balks at progress

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Post by SR2Z »

sschueller wrote: post #130
SR2Z wrote: post #113

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What exactly does fairly look like to you? Uyghurs in camps, suicide nets strung around factories? Like, even if you just want to talk about protectionism, China is way worse than the US pre-Trump. "Fairly" has nothing to do with foreign policy.

I recall kids in cages back before trump was around. The US doesn't exactly have a clean track record when it comes to human rights and international law yet they are quick to point the finger at anyone else when they cross the line. [1] https://www.aclu.org/news/smart-justice/president-obama-want...

There is a vast distance between putting unaccompanied minors in holding cells and what Trump is doing.

No nation is perfect, but the US has historically been better than many others.

Re: DeepSeek R2 launch stalled as CEO balks at progress

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Post by coderatlarge »

coderatlarge wrote: post #168
impossiblefork wrote: post #153

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I think my real problem with it is that how slow it is is easy to predict beforehand. If it doesn't meet the goals set for it speed-wise, they could go for something smaller. It should only be quality which could be unpredictable before training.

maybe they need to allocate that hardware to other uses and are waiting for alternatives?

to wit:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44441089

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