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> and the abysmal everyday use it gets Estimates are that 95% of Internet users have a browser that supports WebP and that ~25% of the top million websites serve WebP images. I wouldn't call that abysmal.
You can't even upload webp to instagram.
A new PNG spec
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> Animated PNGs can't beat GIF nevermind video compression algorithms. Not entirely true, it depends on what's being displayed, see a few simple tests specifically constructed to show how much better APNG can be vs GIF and {,lossy} webp: http://littlesvr.ca/apng/gif_apng_webp.html Of course I don't think it generalizes all that well…
I tried these examples on ezgif, and indeed apng manages to be smaller than webp every single time. Weird, I was under the impression that webp was almost always smaller? Is this because GIF images are already special, or apng uses better compression than png? edit: using the same ezgif webp and apng on a H.264 source, apng is suddenly 10x the size than webp. It seems apng is only better if the source is gif
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Great, so I can download it, but then I have to convert it to a different format before half my apps will be able to use it.
Maybe the issue is with your operating system then?
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You can't even upload webp to instagram.
Which makes sense for an app made for photos: why would you capture a photograph to disk in a format made for distributing on the web?
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#185So animated GIFs can be replaced by Animated PNGs with alpha blending with transparent backgrounds and lossless compression! Some nostalgia from 2000s websites can be revived and relived :) Curious if Animated SVGs are also a thing. I remember seeing some Javascript based SVG animations (it was a animated chatbot avatar) - but not sure if there is any standard framework.
I'm not sure about the tools and DX around animated PNGs. Is that a thing?
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#186>After 20 years of stagnation, PNG is back with renewed vigor! After 20 years of success, we can't resist the temptation to mess with what works.
> [not] Officially supports Exif data How can you call this basic fail a success?
Re: A new PNG spec
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This problem was solved by HTTP since forever. Client sends `Accept` header with supported formats and server selects the necessary content with corresponding `Content-Type` header. You don't need any HTML tags for it.
What about file extensions?
Re: A new PNG spec
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This problem was solved by HTTP since forever. Client sends `Accept` header with supported formats and server selects the necessary content with corresponding `Content-Type` header. You don't need any HTML tags for it.
What about file extensions?
But even beyond that, most file formats have a bit of a header at the start of the file that declares the actual format of the file. Browsers already can understand that and use the correct render for a file without an extension.
Re: A new PNG spec
#189Earlier quoted context omitted.
> and the abysmal everyday use it gets Estimates are that 95% of Internet users have a browser that supports WebP and that ~25% of the top million websites serve WebP images. I wouldn't call that abysmal.
My file manager can’t handle them but my browser can. Edit: and good luck uploading the format to the majority of webforms that aren’t faang.
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5% of people can't view them, yet 25% of top websites use them? In what other industry would it be considered acceptable to exclude 5% of visitors/users/clients?
Can the 5% view images at all? The number of web crawlers have exploded recently.
Note that I'm looking at "all tracked," which excludes 2% "other" browsers in the data whose featureset is not known.