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Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by protocolture »

vjvjvjvjghv wrote: post #50

This is probably an unpopular opinion but I would like politicians on the left to speak up about the rioting and burning of stuff at the current protests and also the Tesla and George Floyd protests. It doesn’t help the cause if we allow some assholes to destroy stuff. Basically they are giving people like Trump an excuse to deploy force and a lot of people will agree. I can’t see what is achieved by burning cars and…

Spreads out police resources for one. Protesters outnumber police. Every cop pulled away from the protest to respond to a fire, looting incident, or whatever can translate directly to lives saved / protesters not arrested etc. Also makes certain goals more achievable. I read a crimethinc article about the george floyd protests and it suggested that the looting drew the cops away from the barricade at the police station, allowing them to destroy it. Seems a lot more practical than pearl clutching.

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by protocolture »

hackernoops wrote: post #73
vjvjvjvjghv wrote: post #50

This is probably an unpopular opinion but I would like politicians on the left to speak up about the rioting and burning of stuff at the current protests and also the Tesla and George Floyd protests. It doesn’t help the cause if we allow some assholes to destroy stuff. Basically they are giving people like Trump an excuse to deploy force and a lot of people will agree. I can’t see what is achieved by burning cars and…

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Whats respectable?

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by pyuser583 »

brewdad wrote: post #141
pyuser583 wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I read somewhere reliable Trump is not invoking the Insurrection Act. I’d cite my source, but can’t find it. I also can’t find anything saying he is invoking it. Do you have any specific source? Edit: I’ve found several sources that make It clear the Insurrection Act had not been invoked. https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/09/politics/insurrection-act-tru... - “Trump officials quietly discuss moves in LA that avoid invoking…

Then that makes this move illegal. Impeach him now.

I have no knowledge of this area of law, but responsible press are saying he can deploy NG and Marines to defend federal property and employees without anything special.

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Post by unsnap_biceps »

koolba wrote: post #96
WarOnPrivacy wrote: post #16

Reminder that the authority under which the the US military is deployed against US citizens was intended to be used in exceptional (extreme) circumstances - ostensibly because no other options would suffice. The Insurrection Act authorizes the president to deploy military forces inside the United States to suppress rebellion or domestic violence or to enforce the law in certain situations. The statute implements Cong…

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As I said above, I'm not afraid of being deported, but I am concerned about the lack of due process for people being deported. Due process is the core of our democracy and once it's removed for some people, it's removed for everyone. I have zero issue with deporting people that shouldn't be here, but they are owed their day in court to make their case. That is why I'm protesting.

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by hn_throwaway_99 »

tanepiper wrote: post #162
yahway wrote: post #102

I originally turned to HN to get away from politics, so it's disappointing to see one of the last remaining refuges being overtaken

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And it's their only comment. They went through all the trouble of creating an account to write a comment about how much they hate politics on a political post, when they could have just hit the "hide" link that's on every post.

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Post by ty6853 »

Scuds wrote: post #188
bix6 wrote: post #49

This is terrifying and unconscionable. Hard to believe this is the USA today. I don’t really see this de-escalating given the ongoing rhetoric but I hope I’m wrong.

there's a reason why people remember kent state.

The real danger of Kent State is it teaches in for a penny, in for a pound.

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Post by b33j0r »

toast0 wrote: post #161
lenerdenator wrote: post #81

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Where a vote is cast matters. You can cast a protest vote for president in states like California or Idaho. You probably shouldn't cast a protest vote in a state that doesn't have such a regular electoral margin. There is often room for influence down ballot as well.

Gotcha, but. The whole point of a protest vote is to influence other people. Doesn’t that influence cross precinct boundaries these days?

The only effect of any protest vote is to tell your friends. Hasan had a lot of friends. Arab communities in Michigan had a lot of friends. Never-never Trumpers had a lot of friends.

I personally believe that a personal political strategy should have a conscientious goal, cognizant of the effects of its action.

There’s no separate moral universe where you preserve your ideals by helping elect an autocrat from the other side.

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