They used Xenon to climb Everest in days – is it the future of mountaineering?

Post by [deleted] » Thu, May 29, 2025, 4:11 PM UTC

jebarker wrote: post #116

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Some people like climbing mountains, including Everest. It makes sense to follow your interests in my opinion.

My phrasing was weird but I'm actually speaking from personal experience here. I haven't climbed Everest but I've pursued other activities to extreme limits, e.g. running 100 mile high mountain races. These activities are all fun and have intrinsic rewards, but a large number of people doing them (my prior self included) were really in it for the external recognition of having done it. Everest seems to be the epitomy…

Post by wat10000 » Thu, May 29, 2025, 4:53 PM UTC

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Customers also tend to try to get the largest slice of the "better off." That's not special. Do you take less pay than you could get because you don't want to be greedy? Do you voluntarily pay more than the listed price when purchasing items? Of course not. In a properly functioning market, the limiting factor is competition. A business can't capture 99% of the "better off" because the guy down the street will underc…

There is a 'human' process 'somewhere in the middle' as you say. I'm not anti-capitalist, I just acknowledge this as a fundamental part of the human process. It might even be the case the businessman's incentive don't fully align with the stockholder/owner's incentive, in many case the businessman can profit at the expense of the company by capturing higher commission with side-effects that the company won't understa…

Post by osigurdson » Thu, May 29, 2025, 5:44 PM UTC

croes wrote: post #108

osigurdson wrote: post #100

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Some people like climbing mountains, including Everest. It makes sense to follow your interests in my opinion.

It makes sense to think about consequences. https://nepalmonitor.com/2025/03/19/nepal-overtourism-everes...

Post by croes » Thu, May 29, 2025, 7:10 PM UTC

osigurdson wrote: post #185

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It makes sense to think about consequences. https://nepalmonitor.com/2025/03/19/nepal-overtourism-everes...

Search your feelings, you just think mountain climbing is dumb / invalid and whatever activities that you like are valid. Let people do what they want. If Nepal wants to further restrict quotas, they can do so.

Post by mattmaroon » Thu, May 29, 2025, 10:41 PM UTC

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That’s some really solid PR work on his part if true, but if he is scaling (pun intended) tours that actually do manage to summit Everest in significantly decreased time, I would say that it’s strong evidence that Xenon actually works and the science just hasn’t caught up to it yet. Unless he has found some other clever way that he is for some reason pretending is Xenon.

> I would say that it’s strong evidence that Xenon actually works The only evidence is the claims from the person selling the expensive five-figure Everest packages. It’s the very definition of a conflict of interest. They also use multiple treatments, not just Xenon. The hikers sleep in hypobaric chambers. Another comment said they used supplemental oxygen but were hiding details about how much. There is no evidence…