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Re: Ground control to Major Trial

#181

Post by fohdeesha »

nand_gate wrote: post #179
florbnit wrote: post #10

> We’re not going to waste days chasing them. But at some point, this goes beyond saving a few bucks: it becomes performance art. Oh for the love of tech, do chase them. This absolutely has to be in void of the terms of your trial take them to court. If not, then at the very least name and shame the company, so some dumb manager orchestrating this silly theft will get fired and someone more mature can be rotated in.

We're not going to waste days chasing them when we could waste days writing a blog post to advertise our product. Genius marketing, I guess Rocket Company is supposed to be exploiting the OSS community, but who built Xen ;) Before you soapbox on the 'open source moral contract' consider repaying the OSS works you gladly derived.

....have you seen how much code and work vates has contributed upstream to xen? It's more than citrix at this point IIRC. Everything they do gets pushed back to upstream projects so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make

Re: Ground control to Major Trial

#182

Post by fohdeesha »

InsideOutSanta wrote: post #153
florbnit wrote: post #10

> We’re not going to waste days chasing them. But at some point, this goes beyond saving a few bucks: it becomes performance art. Oh for the love of tech, do chase them. This absolutely has to be in void of the terms of your trial take them to court. If not, then at the very least name and shame the company, so some dumb manager orchestrating this silly theft will get fired and someone more mature can be rotated in.

There aren't many aerospace companies with annual revenues of around $130 million and satellites in space. I'd guess it's Planet Labs.

it's not

Re: Ground control to Major Trial

#184

Post by TrapLord_Rhodo »

plam503711 wrote: post #26
florbnit wrote: post #10

> We’re not going to waste days chasing them. But at some point, this goes beyond saving a few bucks: it becomes performance art. Oh for the love of tech, do chase them. This absolutely has to be in void of the terms of your trial take them to court. If not, then at the very least name and shame the company, so some dumb manager orchestrating this silly theft will get fired and someone more mature can be rotated in.

I’m actually considering reaching out directly to the CEO and telling the full story. But honestly? There’s a good chance he’s fully aware — and totally fine with it. That’s part of what makes it so disappointing. We’re not rushing into legal action — it’s not worth the energy for now — but publicly calling out the behavior felt necessary. It also sends a message to others in the ecosystem about the kind of nonsense…

it's astra isn't it? I had an internship there and it was pretty toxic. I could totally see them pulling this shit.

Re: Ground control to Major Trial

#185

Post by nand_gate »

fohdeesha wrote: post #181
nand_gate wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We're not going to waste days chasing them when we could waste days writing a blog post to advertise our product. Genius marketing, I guess Rocket Company is supposed to be exploiting the OSS community, but who built Xen ;) Before you soapbox on the 'open source moral contract' consider repaying the OSS works you gladly derived.

....have you seen how much code and work vates has contributed upstream to xen? It's more than citrix at this point IIRC. Everything they do gets pushed back to upstream projects so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make

No, I don't follow legacy hypervisors but fair enough perhaps my initial impression was off-base... still you can appreciate the irony of complaining about Rocket Company getting free stuff :/

Re: Ground control to Major Trial

#186

Post by threeseed »

krisoft wrote: post #164
threeseed wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Threatening legal action costs nothing It costs your reputation as a vendor which is permanent. You don't threaten legal action against companies before calmly advising them of the situation.

> It costs your reputation as a vendor which is permanent. You say that as if that is some bad thing. As a vendor you want to have a reputation for asking what you are fairly owed. The other option is to have a reputation for being a wet tissue anyone can walk through. > You don't threaten legal action against companies before calmly advising them of the situation. These are not incompatible with each other. Of cours…

> As a vendor you want to have a reputation for asking what you are fairly owed.

They've never asked the company.

Instead you want to jump straight to legal action which is insane.

Re: Ground control to Major Trial

#188

Post by BonoboIO »

TrapLord_Rhodo wrote: post #184
plam503711 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m actually considering reaching out directly to the CEO and telling the full story. But honestly? There’s a good chance he’s fully aware — and totally fine with it. That’s part of what makes it so disappointing. We’re not rushing into legal action — it’s not worth the energy for now — but publicly calling out the behavior felt necessary. It also sends a message to others in the ecosystem about the kind of nonsense…

it's astra isn't it? I had an internship there and it was pretty toxic. I could totally see them pulling this shit.

I asked ChatGPT with search enabled and it pointed to the Swedish Space Corp

Re: Ground control to Major Trial

#189

Post by BonoboIO »

ruffrey wrote: post #126

As a solo-founder I have experienced this on a massive scale over nearly 15 years. It's really strange how happy people are with unethical behavior, yet on my end it just doesn't feel right to cut off peoples systems. After multiple attempts to contact them, we will often disable their accounts. It is against the social contract. It is stealing. In many cases companies may have 15+ free trial accounts, the company it…

Let them gain accounts and shut them all down on Friday 20:00. Have a plan to block fast new creation of trials and watch them burn …
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