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iOS Kindle app now has a ‘get book’ button after changes to App Store rules

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Re: iOS Kindle app now has a ‘get book’ button after changes to App Store rules

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Post by niij »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #174
niij wrote: post #171

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I thought the standard fee was 30% for in-app purchases?

If 30% of the price paid is taken by Apple, that means their commission is 43% of the revenue received by the vendor, the hypothetical price you would otherwise pay. A 30% decrease and a 43% increase are the same size; a 30% decrease is much larger than a 30% increase. Observe: 0.7 * 1.3 = 0.91. https://i.imgur.com/MBWOc6W.png

Oh of course. Well the "ease of cancelling" REALLY isn't worth the cost.

And haha to the Dilbert.

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Post by lurk2 »

wordofx wrote: post #179
lurk2 wrote: post #175

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> lol no This is obnoxious and you’re wrong about it. > It sounds like you just don’t like apple to be honest. Astute, I don’t. > It just works It doesn’t.

> This is obnoxious and you’re wrong about it. It appears you don’t understand how iOS apps work. Have you ever tried building one?

No, I haven’t. I haven’t tried building a car before, either, I still know that I want it to have a cupholder.

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Post by [deleted] »

lurk2 wrote: post #182
wordofx wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is obnoxious and you’re wrong about it. It appears you don’t understand how iOS apps work. Have you ever tried building one?

No, I haven’t. I haven’t tried building a car before, either, I still know that I want it to have a cupholder.

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Re: iOS Kindle app now has a ‘get book’ button after changes to App Store rules

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Post by wordofx »

lurk2 wrote: post #182
wordofx wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is obnoxious and you’re wrong about it. It appears you don’t understand how iOS apps work. Have you ever tried building one?

No, I haven’t. I haven’t tried building a car before, either, I still know that I want it to have a cupholder.

Lol that’s funny knowing in this analogy you want the cup holder in the boot because you don’t know what a cup holder is just that you know you want one.

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Post by iwontberude »

wkat4242 wrote: post #162
Spooky23 wrote: post #136

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Try canceling prime. Then try canceling any Apple platform subscription.

That's also something that's the fault of US lawmakers. In the EU cancelling a service must be as easy and through the same channels as signing up. Hence it's illegal to require that customers mail a hand-posted registered letter only on the second Tuesday of the month. Unless that's also the only way to sign up. Transferring you to a "customer loyalty specialist" when cancelling is also illegal if you refuse. Don't…

So Apple is bad because US lawmakers aren’t forcing other companies to follow their practices.

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Post by nucleardog »

pjc50 wrote: post #157
paxys wrote: post #59

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Sure, but customers aren't going to be defending their decision after that like they always do.

People in this thread are defending their right to be made to be paid 30% more and forbidden from being told how they can avoid this. It's bananas. Or astroturf.

> It's bananas. Or astroturf.

Hi, it's me, a Banana. I promise I'm a real life human being though and not being paid by anyone relevant to this.

The way Apple has set this up is generally preferentially friendly to consumers over developers. Since I'm a consumer in this situation, not a developer, that benefits me.

The developers put up with it because that's the only way to access Apple's customer base. Presumably if we remove that requirement and allow them to do less consumer-friendly things that are more profitable they will choose to do so. Since I'm a consumer in this situation, not a developer, that does not benefit me.

So yes, even if I had to pay Apple's fee, I see an extra $2-4/mo as a rounding error on some service for a $1500 device and don't mind paying it to have the 800 pound gorilla going to bat for me. I have never have to deal with confusing or misleading subscriptions, length unsubscribe processes full of dark patterns, "oops we forgot", terrible customer support, or anything else.

I'm happy for this to be a choice, but I'm worried it _won't_ be a choice--developers will switch off on to other payment providers and abandon Apple's subscriptions/payments. I'd be fully behind this if it were a requirement that you had to _also_ offer subscription through Apple, even at some sort of premium.

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Post by wkat4242 »

iwontberude wrote: post #185
wkat4242 wrote: post #162

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That's also something that's the fault of US lawmakers. In the EU cancelling a service must be as easy and through the same channels as signing up. Hence it's illegal to require that customers mail a hand-posted registered letter only on the second Tuesday of the month. Unless that's also the only way to sign up. Transferring you to a "customer loyalty specialist" when cancelling is also illegal if you refuse. Don't…

So Apple is bad because US lawmakers aren’t forcing other companies to follow their practices.

No they're bad because of the 30%. But almost all American companies are bad, really. It's just a inevitability in unrestricted capitalism. That's why we need the EU to put legal constraints on them. Apple isn't the bad Apple in the bunch but they're not great either.

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Post by lurk2 »

wordofx wrote: post #184
lurk2 wrote: post #182

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No, I haven’t. I haven’t tried building a car before, either, I still know that I want it to have a cupholder.

Lol that’s funny knowing in this analogy you want the cup holder in the boot because you don’t know what a cup holder is just that you know you want one.

I know I don’t want to have to close down the apps manually.

Review the site guidelines; you are breaking several of them.

Re: iOS Kindle app now has a ‘get book’ button after changes to App Store rules

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Post by wordofx »

lurk2 wrote: post #188
wordofx wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lol that’s funny knowing in this analogy you want the cup holder in the boot because you don’t know what a cup holder is just that you know you want one.

I know I don’t want to have to close down the apps manually. Review the site guidelines; you are breaking several of them.

Pointing out you’re wrong because you don’t understand how iOS apps works is against the rules? Ok.
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