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Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by SpicyLemonZest »

vel0city wrote: post #134
arcbyte wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I say this as a firm conservative. The courts have so far been outstanding, despite all the inappropriate pressure. I have no doubt they will continue to be. I'm also quite impressed with conservative voters who are speaking out to their conservative representatives. Ultimately though, despite many many calls not to do so, Congress has goven the executive branch unheard of powers. Executive power needs to be reigned…

The courts have so far been exceptionally weak. Hey, you're not allowed to send those people on the plane! The plane already left even though I told you not to send it? Well, you gotta get them back! You're not sending them back? I'll just keep telling you that you have to do it, that'll really show you! Oh, pretty please, would you return that man you illegally sent to that torture prison? No? Oh, ok, well would you…

The courts have successfully enjoined a large number of actions, required the release of many people from domestic ICE custody, and ended the transfer of anyone new to El Salvador. As I'm always reminding people, the news is a highly optimized machine to deliver you the worst thing that happened today - if you're reading it as though it's a representative sample of everything that's happening, you're going to get a misleading perspective.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by chneu »

whodidntante wrote: post #104

I watch/listen to a variety of news sources - CNN, Fox News, NPR, NYTimes, WSj, as well as a number of smaller podcasts and substacks. There are no longer "unbiased" news sources, all sources have moved to either the left or right. I used to have respect for NPR, today it is, to me, the Fox News of the left, and no different than other sources. I do not have a problem with that, it is what it is. But it should not be…

>There are no longer "unbiased" news sources, all sources have moved to either the left or right.

Not really true. The left has moved right as the right went extreme right.

Globally, the US "left" is pretty conservative.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by pjc50 »

alabastervlog wrote: post #76
ty6853 wrote: post #24

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Even judge Xinis [kilmar garcia] was talking a big game, but then folded after promising 'expedited discovery' and the consideration of contempt. She delays week after week and grants the executive the right to hide under the shadows under seal so the public can't know what's happening, even though prior she bragged about forcing them to file these updates with the public. The court folds and folds when they realize…

Some folks speculate that this judge in particular has realized she's either got to keep permitting delays and obvious shenanigans, or she gets to go into the history books as the judge whose case was the breaking point at which the executive went completely, mask-off lawless. Folks suppose she'd prefer someone else get that honor, so is hoping to let the government delay long enough that the case is mooted (because…

It's a very dangerous game, and she is therefore playing only the safest possible moves with the smallest possible escalation at any point. Perhaps it eventually ends in gunfire, but giving the government hundreds of opportunities to back down before then is safer. Each individual step by the judge has to appear as reasonable as possible so as not to be over-ruled by SCOTUS.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by laborcontract »

ziddoap wrote: post #153
laborcontract wrote: post #97

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Because we've seen federal courts unafraid to repudiate unilateral executive force. Why don't you think that, all things considered?

Hasn't Trump already ignored orders from the supreme court regarding Kilmar Abrego Garcia? " Judge scorches Trump admin for stonewalling in Abrego Garcia deportation case " is just one recent headline. From my outside perspective, your checks and balances do not appear to be working. If they do work, I can't help but wonder what is taking so long.

would you prefer what’s happening in brazil?

there are cases where the president has made the lives of individuals miserable in every presidency we’ve lived through. Stating that this is a terrible fact of life and doesn’t justify the harms.

what kind of powers do you envision the judiciary having to rectify these wrongs?

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Post by Quarrelsome »

whodidntante wrote: post #104

I watch/listen to a variety of news sources - CNN, Fox News, NPR, NYTimes, WSj, as well as a number of smaller podcasts and substacks. There are no longer "unbiased" news sources, all sources have moved to either the left or right. I used to have respect for NPR, today it is, to me, the Fox News of the left, and no different than other sources. I do not have a problem with that, it is what it is. But it should not be…

When I asked around in mixed political spaces which news sources were trustworthy, NPR was the only answer people on both sides of the political divide ever gave.

After reading it for several years after, its reporting it somewhat reminds me of the BBC. I think its relative bi-partisanship is something that should be cherished instead of trying to crowbar it into a particular bias.

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Post by boroboro4 »

flkiwi wrote: post #101
hypeatei wrote: post #25

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> Right now I have some faith the courts in the US will stand up to this I think "the guardrails will hold" thinking is flawed when you have someone who is willing to completely side step the system and push the limits. We're not actually sure what holding someone from this administration in contempt even looks like functionally since U.S. marshals are under the DOJ.

The Attorney General went out of her way to assure Cabinet members that the US Marshals would not be arresting them. So, well, that's great. Congress needs to transition the US Marshals to the judiciary or expressly codify that the AG has no authority to direct their actions. Won't happen, but it's what Congress needs to do.

The people in executive pushing unitary executive power theory. And there is a chance Supreme Court will support them at that. With such theory your AG proposal not having authority doesn’t stand (in worst case it would be presidents authority).

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by mh8h »

bhouston wrote: post #3

The US is so weird right now. You have a President who is ordering the defunding of tons of groups (universities, media, aid, institutes) while not clearly having that authority and often doing so for what he views as ideological crimes. Also arresting and trying to deport people for things that are not clearly crimes (newspaper op-eds, etc) and without due process. Very strange times. Right now I have some faith the…

Theoretical question: what happens if he doesn’t do what the courts order, and the congress is too afraid to impeach him?

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by adriand »

TwoNineA wrote: post #48
bhouston wrote: post #3

The US is so weird right now. You have a President who is ordering the defunding of tons of groups (universities, media, aid, institutes) while not clearly having that authority and often doing so for what he views as ideological crimes. Also arresting and trying to deport people for things that are not clearly crimes (newspaper op-eds, etc) and without due process. Very strange times. Right now I have some faith the…

Not weird. It's textbook fascism.

That's exactly right. The problem with the public broadcasters is not that they are regime media, it's that they are not. Put another way, the problem is that they tell the truth. Fox News, on the other hand, is very much regime media, and constantly peddles lies. Therefore, Trump is not attacking them.

This particular move is part of the broader campaign to destroy the independent media, which as you pointed out, is textbook fascism.

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Post by curiousgal »

erkt wrote: post #73

Not much of a quote. > “CPB is not a federal executive agency subject to the President’s authority. Congress directly authorized and funded CPB to be a private nonprofit corporation wholly independent of the federal government. “In creating CPB, Congress expressly forbade ‘any department, agency, officer, or employee of the United States to exercise any direction, supervision, or control over educational television o…

I am sorry but what the fuck does a balanced programming look like? Having an openly racist host spewing shit about women and immigrants?

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Post by yks »

vel0city wrote: post #113
afavour wrote: post #29

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I would imagine Project 2025 is a good source here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025 Every American owes it to themselves to familiarize themselves with the project and its aims, because a number of its authors are the ones wielding power right now.

It's insane to me how many people argued with me that Project 2025 was democrat propaganda to smear Trump. Both online here on Hacker News and in person.

DARVO in action
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