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What I Hate About Working At Facebook

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Re: What I Hate About Working At Facebook

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Post by redthrowaway »

Lewton wrote: post #124
redthrowaway wrote: post #121

I haven't felt the need to downvote a post since PG stripped us of our ability to do so, but this is unmitigated crap. A poor attempt at satire in service to some large corp is not something that should grace the front page, and the resulting conversation helps no one. It's blog spam in a different form.

That's what the flag function is for

I don't know that it's necessarily flagable, unless we extend the definition to "everything deserving of a downvote". If we do that, we've simply offloaded post moderation from the users to the mods.

Re: What I Hate About Working At Facebook

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Post by bwooce »

btilly wrote: post #79
masterzora wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If your meeting absolutely positively must happen on a known weekly no-meeting day then there's really only three cases I can see: 1. You are bad at planning 2. You are bad at communicating 3. Something really, really bad happened and people will understand breaking policy There's a big difference between "no meetings ever" and this.

Sadly there is a particular type of person who discovers the day that nobody is supposed to go to meetings is the day when everybody is free and the meeting rooms are available. And then starts scheduling meetings for that day.

This is the same kind of person who discovers that people, and rooms, are "available" from 12-1pm, and 6pm-

After too many days of back-to-back meetings from 10am to 3pm I've taken to creating a repeating lunchtime meeting with myself. Then I discovered the people who don't care if you're available or not...they consider themselves important enough that you'll drop everything for their meeting.

Re: What I Hate About Working At Facebook

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Post by btilly »

bwooce wrote: post #182
btilly wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sadly there is a particular type of person who discovers the day that nobody is supposed to go to meetings is the day when everybody is free and the meeting rooms are available. And then starts scheduling meetings for that day.

This is the same kind of person who discovers that people, and rooms, are "available" from 12-1pm, and 6pm- After too many days of back-to-back meetings from 10am to 3pm I've taken to creating a repeating lunchtime meeting with myself. Then I discovered the people who don't care if you're available or not...they consider themselves important enough that you'll drop everything for their meeting.

I personally enjoy disabusing people like that of that particular mistaken notion. But there can be associated fallout.

Re: What I Hate About Working At Facebook

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Post by spiffytech »

soup10 wrote: post #66

Real reasons why working at Facebook isn't that attractive in my opinion: 1. Giant php codebase. 2. All the excitement is gone post-IPO, they've reached an inflection point and growth is slowing down. 3. Mark Zuckerburg doesn't have great social skills/intelligence. Which wouldn't be a problem, except that he runs a giant social network. 4. The corporate mission of making the world more open and connected just doesn'…

> 1. Giant php codebase.

As a Python enthusiast who works in a N-hundred kLOC PHP codebase for a living, I have to say large PHP codebases aren't really a problem if they were written by competent people who took the time to think ahead a little.

Sure, PHP has it's deficiencies like any other language, but my day-to-day experience is more along the lines of "I dislike not having "; I don't find myself thinking "wow, I hate PHP, it's such a terrible language and makes my life miserable!", as many people are prone to think with PHP.

PHP may not be your favorite language, but in good hands it's a perfectly workable language, and IMO its use should be a small factor in where you work.

Re: What I Hate About Working At Facebook

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Post by goblin89 »

lupatus wrote: post #94
jackowayed wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I work at Cloudera, and engineering has work from home/no meeting Wednesday. It allows people to work wherever they prefer and are most productive, and to have the whole day to focus with minimal distractions. That said, we do still communicate as needed for the active work. But we do so in terms of emails, chat messages, and sometimes phone calls between only the necessary parties, without any long scheduled meeting…

I work from home / where ever every day. And, it is wonderful. I can even take as much unpaid time off as I want, whenever I want, as long there is no disruption of business services to our clients. This works because I get paid hourly (I don't work = I don't get paid) and we have very fine granularity in tracking what work was done when. There is also high trust amongst all the team members that everyone is being ho…

It does work, but has its drawbacks, for one it's communication requiring extra skill (and effort) when people don't see each other frequently. Seems that way to me (I currently operate in an environment similar to yours).

Re: What I Hate About Working At Facebook

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Post by charlieok »

11. The stock price is too low

The stock has been sliding in recent months. This sucks because stock options granted to people being recruited now will have a higher potential upside than similar grants made around the time of the IPO. New recruits should be the have-nots on the totem pole.

Re: What I Hate About Working At Facebook

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Post by reledi »

brown9-2 wrote: post #167
reledi wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps the post was edited later, but they don't actually use it for interviews (ever). See the photo album: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151055286951458....

Read the paragraph again: There is a fully-working hot tub in the New York office that interviews are conducted in. I didn’t believe this until I saw the photos on Twitter. It was billed to me as a way to test candidates’ resilience under pressure. I was told that it’s used rarely... ... I installed a hot tub (non-functioning) as a conference room in Facebook Seattle. Interviews are never done in them.]

I'm not sure what you're trying to point out to me. You're just confirming what I wrote.

Philip Su, the blog author, installed the (non-functioning) hot tub and was joking about it being used for interviews.

Re: What I Hate About Working At Facebook

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Post by brown9-2 »

reledi wrote: post #187
brown9-2 wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Read the paragraph again: There is a fully-working hot tub in the New York office that interviews are conducted in. I didn’t believe this until I saw the photos on Twitter. It was billed to me as a way to test candidates’ resilience under pressure. I was told that it’s used rarely... ... I installed a hot tub (non-functioning) as a conference room in Facebook Seattle. Interviews are never done in them.]

I'm not sure what you're trying to point out to me. You're just confirming what I wrote. Philip Su, the blog author, installed the (non-functioning) hot tub and was joking about it being used for interviews.

According to the blog post there is one they use for interviews occasionally in New York and one in Seattle they do not use. So saying "they don't actually use it for interviews (ever)" is incorrect according to this article.

Re: What I Hate About Working At Facebook

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Post by reledi »

brown9-2 wrote: post #188
reledi wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure what you're trying to point out to me. You're just confirming what I wrote. Philip Su, the blog author, installed the (non-functioning) hot tub and was joking about it being used for interviews.

According to the blog post there is one they use for interviews occasionally in New York and one in Seattle they do not use. So saying "they don't actually use it for interviews (ever)" is incorrect according to this article.

The post also mentions that hot tub interviews at Facebook New York are completely untrue. Then goes on to say what is true, which is that there's a non-functioning hot tub in Facebook Seattle which is never used for interviews.

To be completely sure, I contacted the author and will post another reply when he verifies what's actually the case.

Re: What I Hate About Working At Facebook

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Post by brown9-2 »

reledi wrote: post #189
brown9-2 wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to the blog post there is one they use for interviews occasionally in New York and one in Seattle they do not use. So saying "they don't actually use it for interviews (ever)" is incorrect according to this article.

The post also mentions that hot tub interviews at Facebook New York are completely untrue. Then goes on to say what is true, which is that there's a non-functioning hot tub in Facebook Seattle which is never used for interviews. To be completely sure, I contacted the author and will post another reply when he verifies what's actually the case.

I think I misunderstood the "editor" note referring to "this is completely untrue" - I interpreted it as saying it being illegal was untrue. Thanks for the repeated clarification.
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