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Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Incidentally, Zoom seems a terrible name for a video conferencing app - anyone know why they chose it?

One guess - fast video.

Added context: Zoom delivered a step change in video conferencing quality for the many, vs the few, and in a lot of ways did seem to force others to be better.

During the pandemic many people used zoom more than their cell phones.

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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post #38
post #32

A few years ago I had a .us TLD. I eventually decided that I probably shouldn't be reliant on a country code for my domain, it's the same reason why I don't use .io I'm not saying that this couldn't have happened with a gTLD But why put your brand at the mercy of a government like that?

> it's the same reason why I don't use .io Dodged a bullet there given that .io is at risk of being discontinued altogether. It hasn't been decided yet, but better to not have that dangling over your head.

This news to me, thanks for sharing.

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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post #41
post #32

A few years ago I had a .us TLD. I eventually decided that I probably shouldn't be reliant on a country code for my domain, it's the same reason why I don't use .io I'm not saying that this couldn't have happened with a gTLD But why put your brand at the mercy of a government like that?

What TLD is not subject to a country's laws? .aq? .su? Edit: .eu might be an even better candidate for this requirement, but you can ask British former domain owners how that worked out gTLDs just subject you to an additional layer of incompetence, namely from the company running it. The government where they're located can still come knocking. It's also not like e.g. .nl is run by the Dutch government officials, it'…

Presumably the idea is that fabricating a legal offense to shut down a ccTLD would be easier than it would be for regular TLDs.

I don't know if that's actually the case, I've heard some shady sites are using .su(Soviet Union) to avoid judicial actions.

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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post #155

4 hour catastrophic outage because of a shitty domain registrar makes me wonder if zoom will be switching critical services to a different tld sooner or later as a result of this

Maybe they will use multiple domains.

See for example that AWS Route53 uses com, org, net and uk domains for the nameservers.

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait really? I use a .us domain for personal stuff, that.. makes me want to reconsider.

Also .us domains don't have who is privacy.

Please don't keep us in suspense ... who is privacy?

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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post #85

That seriously devalues MarkMonitor's services. MarkMonitor claims to be a "an ICANN-accredited registrar and recognized industry leader since 1999". The whole point of paying for MarkMonitor is that they're an expensive service for valuable domains and are not allowed to screw up. GoDaddy should not be involved here at all.

These big companies spend tens of millions on homegrown tooling, even their own languages and databases, but they can't assign one dev to write a domain-monitoring tool?

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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post #85

That seriously devalues MarkMonitor's services. MarkMonitor claims to be a "an ICANN-accredited registrar and recognized industry leader since 1999". The whole point of paying for MarkMonitor is that they're an expensive service for valuable domains and are not allowed to screw up. GoDaddy should not be involved here at all.

> The whole point of paying for MarkMonitor is that they're an expensive service for valuable domains A while ago and, out of curiosity, I did a Whois Lookup to see what big tech companies are using as their domain registrar and found that Microsoft, Google, Amazon, Tesla, Netflix and Shopify are all using MarkMonitor. On the other hand Apple uses "Nom-iq Ltd. dba COM LAUDE", Meta (and its children) uses RegistrarSaf…

> COM LAUDE

Someone had fun with that one.

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also .us domains don't have who is privacy.

Please don't keep us in suspense ... who is privacy?

They probably meant "whois privacy"[1] (without the space). Whois is basically a way to get information about a domain name (and many other stuff). Whois privacy just ensures that your address, name and other stuff is not public.

[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_privacy

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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post #85

That seriously devalues MarkMonitor's services. MarkMonitor claims to be a "an ICANN-accredited registrar and recognized industry leader since 1999". The whole point of paying for MarkMonitor is that they're an expensive service for valuable domains and are not allowed to screw up. GoDaddy should not be involved here at all.

These big companies spend tens of millions on homegrown tooling, even their own languages and databases, but they can't assign one dev to write a domain-monitoring tool?

It’s one of those ‘this problem is so simple, our big corporation cannot hope to solve it’ type of problems.
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