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Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by IlikeKitties »

crossroadsguy wrote: post #177
IlikeKitties wrote: post #55

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You can rip them from tidal quite easily. Youtube also has lots of music to rip but in shitty quality. That being said, music piracy has declined quite a bit since spotify. I'd suggest getting into a private music tracker if you really want to.

Tidal is not available in my country.

You could of course use your technical ability to work around that limitation or figure out other ways to pirate the music you like. I just wanted to add another helpful option for self hosters. But thank you for mentioning that Tidal is unavailable in your hitherto unmentioned country, your contribution to this discussion is valuable and appreciated.

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Post by chillfox »

flessner wrote: post #116
anthropodie wrote: post #71

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>Self-hosting stuff is awesome if you have the skills. >I have been on a mission for the last 2 years to replace as many subscriptions as possible with self-hosted solutions. I have been doing the same for quite some time now but it's only recently I realized all these subscriptions services are just making rich richer. We should encourage self hosting as much as possible. I mean why should we pay huge corporations m…

For "content subscriptions" (Spotify, YouTube, Netflix) keep in mind that a part of the revenue goes towards the content creators. For anything else, I can also highly recommend using local or self-hosted software. Plenty of open source software has even exceeded proprietary alternatives in the last couple years.

Sure, but they also got a cut from all of those dvds I bought before streaming services was a thing or the new dvds/blu-rays I am picking up now.

I mostly watch movies I have already seen before, but with the fragmentation and constant moving around that's happening with steaming services I would frequently end up using 3+ different ones every month. The constant cancel/renew cycle was a real hassle and very error prone, I would often forget one or two.

I only watch about 20 new movies a year, so even without hunting for bargains I will easily save a lot of money. But I will be looking for bargains, because why not.

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Post by skydhash »

hyperbovine wrote: post #44
tomrod wrote: post #26

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"You'll own nothing and you'll be happy": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You%27ll_own_nothing_and_be_ha...

For $15 a month I get access to (as far as my tastes are concerned) all the music ever recorded, instantly accessible from anywhere in the world on any device I own. I recall a commercial from the 90s that sort of poked fun at this exact idea, as being laughably farfetched and "sci-fi". You're damn right I'm happy.

Was happy for a time, then I realized I only listen to the same playlists (generated playlists don't work for me as I need some time to appreciate new music). Now I use YouTube/SoundCloud to check out artists' releases, and then get the whole album if it's interesting.

I have a decently sized library with my favorite albums and that's been sufficient for some time now. Every once in a while, I track new releases and explore new genres, then add the few that picked my interest to my library.

Intentionally is great for enjoying art (and YouTube is more than enough for mood music)

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Post by chillfox »

al_borland wrote: post #157
russelg wrote: post #124

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Is there really a point in backing up media? Unless you've ripped it yourself, I'm sure anything you have is easily obtainable again.

Some things are popular in the moment and very hard to come by 10-20 years later if they aren’t pretty popular. TV shows especially. I’ve been considering buying some of those giant DVD lots that come up on Craigslist from time to time, or checking out flea markets for good deals. With the way things are heading, one of my fears is I will get old and lose access to some of the shows are movies I loved in my youth. Li…

This, if you have some favorites or just movies that remind you of your youth, don't wait, go get them on dvd now. It gets harder and more expensive the longer you wait.

I have been hunting down the movies that I was watching when growing up and it's been a real mission, especially the really old ones that were made before I was born.

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Post by phanimahesh »

RajT88 wrote: post #4

Love JellyFin! I do not mind the jankiness, since I can work around a lot of it with the API. I do not even mind too much the Love Exposure bug: https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin/issues/10494

This is hilarious. The most probable explanation is that it's matching the tvshow part, but a repro would be interesting.

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Post by artdigital »

chillfox wrote: post #58

Self-hosting stuff is awesome if you have the skills. I have been on a mission for the last 2 years to replace as many subscriptions as possible with self-hosted solutions. The subscriptions really had gotten out of hand, it had gotten to about $200 (AUD) a month. Quick napkin math is that I have cancelled about ~$150 a month worth of subscriptions so far. The $500 office desktop I got for a home server is struggling…

I have my collection in Dropbox, then sync that onto my home server with rclone once a day, which exposes it to Plex. Then I use the Plexamp app (music-only Plex app) to listen across all my devices

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Post by grepexdev »

lolive wrote: post #178
armSixtyFour wrote: post #149

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I would have agreed with you 3 years ago. But now not so much. Spotify "Radio" feature just tends to want to give me music I've already listened to over new music. Whatever algorithm they are using has waaaay overfit to what I have already liked. There used to be curated playlists done by humans, now almost everything is "made for you by Spotify" playlists which, have the exact same issue as the radio stations, sudde…

Spotify « radio » is the best reason to listen to real radios ! [honestly the DJs on most of the radios I listen to are insanely skilled !] Btw, is there somewhere a search engine to know when a given [set of] track was played where, in the internet radio world?

This! I recently ditched Spotify and rediscovered radio in the past few weeks. There are so many great songs I've come across from bands I enjoy that I had never heard of because, as someone else said, Spotify's algorithm is way overfit.

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by bee_rider »

sailfast wrote: post #76
bhaney wrote: post #57

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> I wish there was an easy way for this - plug and play kinda I can click a button in Lidarr to auth with Spotify and automatically search usenet for every album of every artist I follow on spotify, download them all, and make them available in Jellyfin. It'll even monitor the spotify account and import new additions. Getting the whole stack set up is pretty much the exact opposite of plug and play, but once you have…

Sure, but that’s piracy. Kinda like saying Winamp is alternative to Spotify. The music is kinda the most important thing.

It is really just unauthorized copying. No boats were boarded, nobody was murdered.

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Post by xmprt »

armSixtyFour wrote: post #149
dankwizard wrote: post #95

This article fails to mention the absolute butchering of features that takes place moving from a typical music streaming subscription to a self hosted Jellyfin library. A large part of my listening on YouTube Music is going to a particular song or band I like and clicking "Radio", which generates a playlist of similar sounding songs. You can then fine tune it with a filter i.e "Popular songs, deep cuts" or specific e…

I would have agreed with you 3 years ago. But now not so much. Spotify "Radio" feature just tends to want to give me music I've already listened to over new music. Whatever algorithm they are using has waaaay overfit to what I have already liked. There used to be curated playlists done by humans, now almost everything is "made for you by Spotify" playlists which, have the exact same issue as the radio stations, sudde…

I wonder if it's a bit of a vicious cycle. For example, if you only ever listen to new music that Spotify gives you then at a certain point, the algorithm only knows how to output the things that it has already outputted. If you don't give it any new external signal then it doesn't have a good way to find new songs.
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