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Re: Temu pulls its U.S. Google Shopping ads

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Post by Symbiote »

vineyardmike wrote: post #103
fastball wrote: post #93

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That doesn't make sense, as ads are useless without consumption (i.e. imports). We did manage to monetize our consumption thru ads though.

The world is still consuming. Even if the US tariffs everyone else, they still trade amongst themselves. The real risk to our economy is that the rest of the world stops paying for our services and cultural exports.

Trump is going to try to pressure other countries into putting tariffs on China etc in return for a trade deal with the USA.

Several (EU, Japan and more) have said they won't agree to this.

Re: Temu pulls its U.S. Google Shopping ads

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Post by skwee357 »

Aren't Temu/Shein considered to be ultra-low-quality garbage, mostly? Don't people haul their items in order to promote their useless Instagram/TikTok, so their followers will buy the same ultra-low-quality garbage?

Don't get me wrong. I'm in favor of direct access to overseas markets, rather than local distributors slapping 200% margin on Chinese sourced/produced items that you can buy from AliExpress. But I'm not in favor of flooding the market with cheap, toxic, unsafe, non-lasting crap that ends up in landfill in a few weeks or days.

So no, I don't feel sorry for Temu.

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Post by djmips »

Freak_NL wrote: post #150
jjcob wrote: post #130

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> ordering a 75-cents part from the other side of the planet is a massive waste of resources Is it really that bad? Is it better to package the part in retail packaging, ship them in bulk to international warehouses, ahead of time, store them for months, then put them in a new package when someone orders them, and mail them through a local postal service. Versus just stuffing the part in a tiny envelope and sending i…

I genuinely can't tell; it's a good question. If the sellers on AliExpress could ever be arsed to use recyclable packaging instead of four layers of plastic baggies and wrap it would be even more interesting.

And if recycling in North America wasn't so often a sham.

Re: Temu pulls its U.S. Google Shopping ads

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Post by Symbiote »

chvid wrote: post #132

As far as I know in Europe TEMU sends stuff from local fulfillment centers. So maybe TEMU US can return in that form if the trade conflict settles.

They aim to send 80% from European warehouses, but it's less than a year since they started so there's no figure for the current amount.

The tax is the same either way, since they collect VAT for packages sent from China. The advantage is the faster delivery time.

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Post by constantcrying »

I hope temu and the other Chinese companies in that segment stop selling overseas. Their model is just incredibly destructive to the environment, they ship over the lowest quality garbage imaginable and create so much pollution and waste in the process.

I also have quite a bit of disdain for people using these sites. Nobody needs this and it is just harmful all around.

Re: Temu pulls its U.S. Google Shopping ads

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Post by numpad0 »

Aurornis wrote: post #80
throw310822 wrote: post #61

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> I'm surprised the websites don't even acknowledge this yet. Well, why would you waste the opportunity to enrage Americans against their government, for free? "Your $5 package has arrived on time, now you only have to pay the $75 extra that the candidate you voted for has decided to take from you". It's the best ads campaign ever, and it's entirely free.

It's not that complicated. They don't pay the tariffs. The person receiving the package does. Many carriers will slap you with the tariff charge, a brokerage fee, and then send you to collections if you don't pay it. The vendors don't care because they're making the sale and the tariffs are the other person's responsibility. Caveat emptor.

The parent comment is joking that everyone should look for disgruntled Temu users and ask if they have few minutes to talk about laws and tariffs.

No offense to guys talking about other topics on those occasions.

Re: Temu pulls its U.S. Google Shopping ads

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Post by bharrison »

philjohn wrote: post #168
nottorp wrote: post #135

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Temu/Aliexpress/etc are for buying very cheap clothing. 2 out of 3 items fit and 1 out of 3 is decent quality. That's still cheaper, depending on what tariffs your country is charging. I wouldn't buy something where a warranty would be useful from them. Ok, maybe very niche hobby products, but then I wouldn't expect a warranty.

Not entirely. For cycling there are now a group of trusted companies that many people purchase from - WinSpace, Magene, iGPSport, that stand behind their products. I have a Magene p505 crank-based power meter - £250 delivered. It's as accurate as ones costing 4X as much, and has not shown any signs of issues in the year+ I've been using it. The idea that AliExpress is just for cheap tat is less and less true, and pro…

Obviously YMMV, but I bought some Amazon MTB pedals rated 4.7 starts @ 9k ratings. One suffered a catastrophic failure, shearing off at the crank and I was pitched over the bars.

Design and manufacturing is obviously a major part of the equation with this product sector, and no doubt the Chinese can do that as good as, or even better than domestic brands in many respects. What they don't do as well, as far as I'm aware, is any significant destructive testing.

The bonus is I can now spend even more absurd amounts of money on bike components, which is the true dream of any true cycling enthusiast.

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Post by mschuster91 »

thelastgallon wrote: post #176
roshin wrote: post #138

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If what Trump says is any sign to how MAGA explains it, then the answer is: if you don't want to pay those large fees, buy local. Sure the cost will go up, and significantly so in the "short term" (however long that is ...), but in the long term we will have more local manufacturing. disclaimer: I personally don't agree with that, so no need to argue against me. Just answering OP's question, because I feel that it is…

And its going to be fine. Amish mostly make everything they need, have no debt, no trade deficits, have lots of kids and are thriving. I'm not saying this to be snarky, all Americans can be as happy as billionaines: https://www.businessinsider.com/if-you-want-to-be-happier-sh... "Is it possible to step off the hedonic treadmill? The best approach involves silencing our desires, restraining the insatiable appetite of…

> Furthermore, their rates of depression are more than ten fold lower than the rest of the American population.

One wonders if this is simply due to under-diagnosis.

Re: Temu pulls its U.S. Google Shopping ads

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Post by squarefoot »

echoangle wrote: post #162
nottorp wrote: post #135

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Temu/Aliexpress/etc are for buying very cheap clothing. 2 out of 3 items fit and 1 out of 3 is decent quality. That's still cheaper, depending on what tariffs your country is charging. I wouldn't buy something where a warranty would be useful from them. Ok, maybe very niche hobby products, but then I wouldn't expect a warranty.

AliExpress is great for electronics. Not the „I need a phone“ stuff (although for that it’s fine too, I think), but more the „I need an ESP-32 module“.

This. People buying a laptop there for ten bucks then receiving the photo of one have indeed all the rights to complain, but common sense should suggest them before the purchase the old saying that if something looks too good to be true... And this can happen everywhere there's no strict quality control or accountability. Aliexpress is great for small modules, SBCs, diy electronics in general, however I wouldn't ever buy semiconductors, batteries or memory modules there, as the risk of fakes or low quality clones is close to 100%.
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