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Re: Recent AI model progress feels mostly like bullshit

#181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It didn't understand you but the response was plausible enough to require fact checking. Although that isn't literally indistinguishable from 'understanding' (because your fact checking easily discerned that) it suggests that at a surface level it did appear to understand your question and knew what a plausible answer might look like. This is not necessarily useful but it's quite impressive.

There are times it just generates complete nonsense that has nothing to do with what I said, but it's certainly not most of the time. I do not know how often, but I'd say it's definitely under 10% and almost certainly under 5% that the above happens. Sure, LLMs are incredibly impressive from a technical standpoint. But they're so fucking stupid I hate using them. > This is not necessarily useful but it's quite impres…

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Re: Recent AI model progress feels mostly like bullshit

#182
more interesting benchmarks:

- Make as much money as you can in a 24 hour period doing only legal, moral and non-annoying things

- Make a depressed person who calls a suicide hotline feel really happy doing only legal, moral and non-annoying things

- Do something really useful for society with measurable outcomes doing only legal, moral and non-annoying things

Re: Recent AI model progress feels mostly like bullshit

#183
From my own experience on a codebase using a lot of custom algorithms on trees and sometimes graphs.

There were qualitatively leaps in my day-to-day usage:

Claude Sonnet 3.5 and ChatGPT O1 were good for writing slop and debugging simple bugs

Grok Thinking and Sonnet 3.7 were good to catch mildly complicated bugs and write functions with basic logic. They still made mistake

But recently, Gemini 2.5 pro has been scary good. I liked to made fun of the feel-the-AGI crowd but for the first time a model made me raise an eyebrow

It can one shot unusual function with complicated logic and subtle edge cases

Re: Recent AI model progress feels mostly like bullshit

#184

My mom told me yesterday that Paul Newman had massive problems with alcohol. I was somewhat skeptical, so this morning I asked ChatGPT a very simple question: "Is Paul Newman known for having had problems with alcohol?" All of the models up to o3-mini-high told me he had no known problems. Here's o3-mini-high's response: "Paul Newman is not widely known for having had problems with alcohol. While he portrayed charact…

I just asked 4o:

Yes, Paul Newman did experience significant struggles with alcohol. In his posthumously published memoir, The Extraordinary Life of an Ordinary Man, Newman candidly discusses his drinking habits and acknowledges his long-term battle with alcoholism. He describes himself as a "functioning alcoholic," a trait he noted was shared with his father. At one point, Newman was reported to consume a case of beer daily, followed by spirits, until he eventually gave up hard liquor.

Re: Recent AI model progress feels mostly like bullshit

#185
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

FWIW 2.5-exp was the only one that managed to get a problem I asked it right, compared to Claude 3.7 and o1 (or any of the other free models in Cursor). It was reverse engineering ~550MB of Hermes bytecode from a react native app, with each function split into a separate file for grep-ability and LLM compatibility. The others would all start off right then quickly default to just greping randomly what they expected i…

How did you fit 550MB of bytecode into the context window? Was this using 2.5 in an agentic framework? (i.e. repeated model calls and tool usage)

I manually pre-parsed the bytecode file with awk into a bazillion individual files that were each just one function, and gave it the hint to grep to sort through them. This was all done in Cursor.

    awk '/^=> \[Function #/ {           
        if (out) close(out);
        fn = $0; sub(/^.*#/, "", fn); sub(/ .*/, "", fn);
        out = "function_" fn ".txt"
    }
    { if (out) print > out }' bundle.hasm
Quick example of the output it gave and it's process.

https://i.imgur.com/Cmg4KK1.png

https://i.imgur.com/ApNxUkB.png

Re: Recent AI model progress feels mostly like bullshit

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My mom told me yesterday that Paul Newman had massive problems with alcohol. I was somewhat skeptical, so this morning I asked ChatGPT a very simple question: "Is Paul Newman known for having had problems with alcohol?" All of the models up to o3-mini-high told me he had no known problems. Here's o3-mini-high's response: "Paul Newman is not widely known for having had problems with alcohol. While he portrayed charact…

Does the as yet unwritten prequel of Idiocracy tell the tale of when we started asking Ai chat bots for facts and this was the point of no return for humanity?

The chatgpt'd tariffs marks this epoch perfectly.

Re: Recent AI model progress feels mostly like bullshit

#187

My mom told me yesterday that Paul Newman had massive problems with alcohol. I was somewhat skeptical, so this morning I asked ChatGPT a very simple question: "Is Paul Newman known for having had problems with alcohol?" All of the models up to o3-mini-high told me he had no known problems. Here's o3-mini-high's response: "Paul Newman is not widely known for having had problems with alcohol. While he portrayed charact…

I just had Cursor Pro + Sonnet 3.7 Max one shot a python script to send this question to every model available through groq.

>Found 24 models: llama3-70b-8192, llama-3.2-3b-preview, meta-llama/llama-4-scout-17b-16e-instruct, allam-2-7b, llama-guard-3-8b, qwen-qwq-32b, llama-3.2-1b-preview, playai-tts-arabic, deepseek-r1-distill-llama-70b, llama-3.1-8b-instant, llama3-8b-8192, qwen-2.5-coder-32b, distil-whisper-large-v3-en, qwen-2.5-32b, llama-3.2-90b-vision-preview, deepseek-r1-distill-qwen-32b, whisper-large-v3, llama-3.3-70b-specdec, llama-3.3-70b-versatile, playai-tts, whisper-large-v3-turbo, llama-3.2-11b-vision-preview, mistral-saba-24b, gemma2-9b-it

Excluding the ones that do not support chat completions, all but one (qwen-qwq-32b) answered in the affirmative. The answer from qwen-qwq-32b said:

    Paul Newman, the renowned actor and humanitarian, did not have a widely publicized 
    struggle with alcohol addiction throughout most of his life, but there were 
    specific instances that indicated challenges.
Using lack of progress in a specialized field as a barometer for overall progress is kind of silly. I just spent the last few days 'vibe coding' an application and I have to say that it's pretty remarkable how capable it is now relative to my experience last year.

It took three minutes for me to do the above from the time I created my API key to when I had an answer.

Re: Recent AI model progress feels mostly like bullshit

#189

My mom told me yesterday that Paul Newman had massive problems with alcohol. I was somewhat skeptical, so this morning I asked ChatGPT a very simple question: "Is Paul Newman known for having had problems with alcohol?" All of the models up to o3-mini-high told me he had no known problems. Here's o3-mini-high's response: "Paul Newman is not widely known for having had problems with alcohol. While he portrayed charact…

I just asked 4o: Yes, Paul Newman did experience significant struggles with alcohol. In his posthumously published memoir, The Extraordinary Life of an Ordinary Man, Newman candidly discusses his drinking habits and acknowledges his long-term battle with alcoholism. He describes himself as a "functioning alcoholic," a trait he noted was shared with his father. At one point, Newman was reported to consume a case of be…

My own markov chains follow up "until he" with fundamentally distinct follow-ups.

Re: Recent AI model progress feels mostly like bullshit

#190

My mom told me yesterday that Paul Newman had massive problems with alcohol. I was somewhat skeptical, so this morning I asked ChatGPT a very simple question: "Is Paul Newman known for having had problems with alcohol?" All of the models up to o3-mini-high told me he had no known problems. Here's o3-mini-high's response: "Paul Newman is not widely known for having had problems with alcohol. While he portrayed charact…

Perplexity had no problem with the question, replying in part, "Paul Newman is known to have struggled with alcohol throughout his life, as revealed in various accounts, including his own memoir and documentaries about his life...."
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