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Re: Gumroad’s source is available

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The Readme goes right to how to install it, and other than the logo saying "sell your stuff, see what sticks" there is 0 information about what it does. Sure I can Google, but I think it should be right there, at the top of the Readme.

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Re: Gumroad’s source is available

#184
post #163

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I think this reaction is misdirected. Yes, the license is restrictive, but Gumroad doesn't seem to be claiming themselves that the code is open source. I think OP made a mistake out of ignorance and said that it was open source.

The founder of Gumroad is claiming that [1]. > 14 years ago, Gumroad launched > Today, Gumroad goes open-source [1]: https://x.com/shl/status/1908090697984426227

Thanks, this is new to me and not something I could infer from OP's link.

Re: Gumroad’s source is available

#185

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As if any court would accept this. Nice try

OpenAI is basically betting the existence of the company on that. Meta is betting the existence of their Llama models on it.

Except they have billions of dollars to make that bet.

Re: Gumroad’s source is available

#187
post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The founder of Gumroad is claiming that [1]. > 14 years ago, Gumroad launched > Today, Gumroad goes open-source [1]: https://x.com/shl/status/1908090697984426227

Thanks, this is new to me and not something I could infer from OP's link.

I think the original title for this submission also called it open source: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43580533

Re: Gumroad’s source is available

#188
post #159

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Gumroad became my cautionary tale for startup equity for early engineers. I remember excitedly following the story from start. It was fun to follow along. Then around 2015 things weren’t working well, so they laid off most of the team. Investors sold the company back to the founder at a steep discount. As I recall, a major investor sold their ownership for $1. Just like that, the founding engineers who worked so hard…

How did lose all their equity? You can’t declare equity is worthless. You can raise new rounds with different valuations and dilute previous investors/employees but they would also dilute themselves.

Even if they don't "lose" their equity, it might just turn essentially worthless. Very often "equity" founding staff receives is in the form of (V)ESOP s = (virtual) employee stock options, or other equity grants that only materialize in the case of an "exit event". Depending on how the exit events are specified in the contract, the founder taking the company private (/ divestment from the investors) might have resulted in an exit event with $1 value of the company.

Re: Gumroad’s source is available

#189
I tried to grep the code for `api.` to get a sense for all the vendors this codebase is using, and which you'd need to have relationships with to run the code. Here's what I found:

payments:

  https://api.paypal.com 
  https://api.stripe.com
tax stuff:

  https://api.taxjar.com
  https://api.vatstack.com (EU VAT)
  https://apiservices.iras.gov.sg
for iOS app (?):

  https://api.appstoreconnect.apple.com 
  https://api.storekit.itunes.apple
AI stuff:

  https://api.iffy.com  (AI content moderation)
  https://api.helper.ai (AI support)
  https://api.openai.com
other:

  https://api.easypost.com  (shipping labels?)
  https://api.sendgrid.com (email)
  https://api.pwnedpasswords.com (haveibeenpwned)
  https://api.worldbank.org (for purchasing power parity?)
  https://api.dropboxapi.com (for "upload from dropbox"?)

Re: Gumroad’s source is available

#190
post #11

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To put it another way they want to call it open source without actually being open source.

I don’t think they actually call it open source themselves – rather, the HN poster made a (probably benign) mistake.

It's not a mistake because someone doesn't subscribe to the same definition as you. There are 2 widely competing definitions that are both perfectly valid, if you want to be more specific you can say "not OSI approved" to more accurately reflect what you're talking about, if you don't want to do that then you can understand how others feel.
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