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Upcoming Windows 11 builds cannot install without internet and Microsoft Account

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Re: Upcoming Windows 11 builds cannot install without internet and Microsoft Account

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post #160

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Should be mentioned this is way worse than Apple Having to use an account to get apps from app store (Apple) vs. having to use an account to install and use the OS in the first place (Microsoft) = not even a a competition

You cannot even develop or use anything that needs a compiler without siging up and logging in to apple to install dev tools. So nah, same.

Nah. In one case no one prevents you from torrenting third party Xcode at your own risk. You can run any code you want on your device. But in the other case you can't even use the OS. Cope however you want but QED.

It's not perfect, it sucks, but it's better

Re: Upcoming Windows 11 builds cannot install without internet and Microsoft Account

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All the computers are connected to the Internet? Can you still buy something without having to register and without that software always be communicating to home servers? Can you still buy a software product and do whatever you wish with it, for as long as you want and without having to pay subscriptions or be forced to upgrade?

> All the computers are connected to the Internet?

no

> Can you still buy something without having to register and without that software always be communicating to home servers?

yes

Can you still buy a software product and do whatever you wish with it, for as long as you want and without having to pay subscriptions or be forced to upgrade?

yes

Re: Upcoming Windows 11 builds cannot install without internet and Microsoft Account

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You can install things from Windows/Microsoft Store without an account.

I’m sure it has forced me to login. I suppose I could have fallen for some dark pattern in the UI though. God I hate what this industry has become.

I am also pretty sure that I thought I had to log in years ago I had windows. Probably also fell victim of the UI.

Re: Upcoming Windows 11 builds cannot install without internet and Microsoft Account

#185
Good old days - when the software was a box full of floppy disks or CDs which you buy at a store and bring them home and modify registry settings etc.

Software is no longer a product like a chair and table which you can just buy and move it from the store to your home. It is more like a managed service like a utility connection. It is available for use only as long as the vendor allows it. You buy a subscription and play nice. The buyer might also not have the admin user privileges on the software they bought with their money.

The same might happen to cars and all other smart devices as well. Cars might always be connected to the car company, which might have some remote control over the car. Phones are already like this. It is a matter of time, all your home appliances are partly controlled by the companies who sold them.

Re: Upcoming Windows 11 builds cannot install without internet and Microsoft Account

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I second that, everything "just works" as you'd expect it to. If StreamOS can get widespread and they start to introduce desktop apps to the store, I think they can take some market share.

Imo just works is an understatement. Many games work better than ever.

I still have a Windows computer for a single reason: PUBG on Steam.

If that worked on Linux, I would not longer need Windows at all...

Re: Upcoming Windows 11 builds cannot install without internet and Microsoft Account

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post #159

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Imo just works is an understatement. Many games work better than ever.

On low power hardware many games run better because they not strangled by windows bloat.

How bloated is Windows actually?

Re: Upcoming Windows 11 builds cannot install without internet and Microsoft Account

#188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Should be mentioned this is way worse than Apple Having to use an account to get apps from app store (Apple) vs. having to use an account to install and use the OS in the first place (Microsoft) = not even a a competition

Until you need to download something from the app store (happened to me the other day on a mac I wiped and then needed to bring on holiday so now I need to go through the process again afterwards)

Irrelevant. You can still use the OS and run any code you want.

Re: Upcoming Windows 11 builds cannot install without internet and Microsoft Account

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post #187

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On low power hardware many games run better because they not strangled by windows bloat.

How bloated is Windows actually?

Idles at 50% CPU usage running background tasks on a dual core. For steam deck, enough to be noticeable in FPS.

Re: Upcoming Windows 11 builds cannot install without internet and Microsoft Account

#190
post #47

Is there a good reason (other than licensing and Linux as an alternative) I shouldn't use Windows Server 202X as a Desktop OS?

These days there is no reason to use Windows at home. Just move to a distro like Mint or Ubuntu. It will save you money and help stop filling up Landfills.

I am on a 10+ year old Laptop with Slackware, for desktop use it is just as fast as any modern Laptop with Windows, I would even say it is faster.

Also you will find Libreoffice is just as good as M/S Office. Just ignore the fud. FWIW, I believe many foreign countries will start migrating to Linux and I heard that is already happening in China.

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