Live data from Hacker News

Goblin.tools: simple, single-task tools to help neurodivergent people with tasks

goblin.tools

181–190 of 255 posts

Re: Goblin.tools: simple, single-task tools to help neurodivergent people with tasks

#181
post #44

This could be overgeneralising a bit... but I see a lot of people with ADHD (on- and offline) who tend to make it an essential part of their identity. I realise it's a very impactful thing to have to deal with (I have ADHD too) but I feel like a lot of the time it's brought up for no real reason. E.g. you started daydreaming when reading a book? Forgot something to do when you walked through a doorway? Got angry? You…

> I see a lot of people with ADHD (on- and offline) who tend to make it an essential part of their identity Honest question: why is this an issue? If someone makes it part of their identity its because they feel its important for others to know, and that can be for a variety of reasons. Is there a reason we shouldn't make it part of our identity, if we so choose?

You should choose what is right for you and accept that others won't like it, like anything else in life

Re: Goblin.tools: simple, single-task tools to help neurodivergent people with tasks

#182

I've ADHD and I'm on the spectrum. Others may differ - it's a spectrum after all- but I feel no list-only app will ever silence the drunk baboon on my shoulder constantly pulling my attention from what I'm doing. I'd advise goblin.tools to market itself differently and aim for the neurotypical market as well. #my2cents

I'm not diagnosed anything, but I'm a paid user because of Magic ToDo -- and I don't even use it that often. It really is magic, and I use it most often as a demonstration of what LLMs are capable of in somewhat unusual use cases.

Re: Goblin.tools: simple, single-task tools to help neurodivergent people with tasks

#183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah so that's the thing. In my case, I'll call what I received from my therapy "a self-goodness". I think others may term this nebulous quality "self-esteem", "a deeper understanding of the universe/cosmos/God", "motivation", "confidence", and so on. But "self-goodness" is something I came up with so it resonates with me personally. In my case, "solving stress" (or perhaps "reaching inner peace" in my own words) mea…

I really appreciate you taking the time to write this all out for me. I’ve read through it several times now with a couple breaks between. If I were to summarize, it’s about enjoying the process rather than the result. Much easier said than done, but the ideal goal. The thing that keeps me and people like me from enjoying the process is the constant background of “is this going to be worth it”. Perhaps just the aware…

No problem! Even if I understand that, in a way, everything I wrote is just nonsense if kept as a jumble of words and not put into practice, I wrote it in such a way that perhaps someone like past me could see relatively easily that there are still solutions out there within reach, even for someone like them. :)

Re: Goblin.tools: simple, single-task tools to help neurodivergent people with tasks

#184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fair warning, what will write only applies to my circumstance and I have no intention to denigrate the life experiences of others. I used to prescribe myself labels like ADHD. In fact I probably got into this habit at a very young age since people around me were already talking about labels and how they did or didn't apply to me, and I soaked all this up as children are wont to do. I no longer abide by such labels an…

> Now I don't bother to follow a strict schedule except for work things. Huh, "just" that? If I could do that I'd feel like I'm on the freaking top of the world.

Yeah, I get it. It really is exactly how you describe, compared to how I lived before at least - like being on top of the world all the time. No organizational tools or anything required, except maybe a couple calendar reminders for big events each month. No alarm either, now I wake up naturally each day and still get enough time to prepare for work each morning and maybe even watch a bit of TV. (To be fair, I'd probably want to schedule things more often if I had more social obligations to fulfill, but I'm relatively alright working on things by myself right now.)

I did purchase a fitness monitor though, which I found an excellent investment since it provides me with ideas as to how I should spend my energy (exercising or recovery). But it doesn't really impose any "must-do" activities; it only reflects the state of your body day-to-day and leaves the rest to you. I'm already motivated enough to hit the gym for 30 minutes whenever I feel up to it, so it's just an extra thing on top to track my progress.

It's not like every single day is perfect or anything - example, today I fumbled my sleep schedule and couldn't as get much done - but even the off days I can accept with a feeling of grace knowing they're only temporary, and even times like these are necessary in reaching happier places.

Re: Goblin.tools: simple, single-task tools to help neurodivergent people with tasks

#185

adhd here. bad enough to not graduate from high school on time. I have been medicated for a decade now and I dream of finally having built my systems around life up to the degree that I feel good about discontinuing them. It's not good for you to be on stimulants every day like I am. If your flavor of adhd is mild and the functional impairment you have doesn't literally ruin your life, consider working your way up th…

> bad enough to not graduate from high school on time. This is a good example of how wide the ADHD spectrum can be. From my perspective, I’d actually call this mild, not because it is, but because I never finished high school at all. My parents bought into stigma and refused meds against medical advice, and the fallout ruined both my childhood and much of my adult life. I get you're aiming for a cautious take, but I’…

I largely agree with you. I do think that for the people with ADHD who graduated college and got advanced degrees, who held down jobs in industry for years before getting an inkling they had ADHD - they should indeed use the theraputic ladder, starting with therapy first.

I don't say that because I think medication is inherently evil, but because I believe the therapy actually worked quite well in my case. If other people can get the step change in their quality of life for the cost of relatively short term, and avoid a lifetime of medication, why would they not? I want people to consider this option.

And yes, see a real doctor - and not one who, like mine, heard my story and said "OK you've probably got it, here's a prescription for adderall".

Edit to add: I feel you wrt to the parental stigma. It burned me as well. My parents took me to some lab visit where they hooked me up to an EEG and made me press buttons when lights went on. Weirdly enough, the novel situation was quite stimulating for me, and I was given a clear negative diagnosis. Any time the topic came up again after that I was shut down. Took until my 20s to get any help for it, and another 5 years to seek therapy, which has been great.

Re: Goblin.tools: simple, single-task tools to help neurodivergent people with tasks

#186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was going to reply to the same post with similar. If just having a label to apply alleviates the negative emotion, isn't it a placebo? I think a far far greater number of people experience the exact same problems of focus and distress, and learn to cope effectively in their own deeply personal way. I identify strongly with all the symptoms stated. A label feels useless, or worse - constraining, as it becomes your i…

> If just having a label to apply alleviates the negative emotion, isn't it a placebo? You could use the exact same line of reasoning to ask "if just talking about an issue with a professional alleviates an issue, isn't that a placebo?" And the answer is obviously, "No, talk therapy is an extremely well-known mental health intervention with an extremely high effect size on average" Anxiety and depression are disorder…

Yea placebo is probably the wrong word here. And I agree with you. Often just recognizing something removes it's power. I'm glad the commenter experienced the change they did. Just makes me wonder in this case, the root of it seems like self acceptance - a major theme in (at least my own) therapy. Perhaps a label is a powerful shortcut.

Re: Goblin.tools: simple, single-task tools to help neurodivergent people with tasks

#187
post #149
post #44

This could be overgeneralising a bit... but I see a lot of people with ADHD (on- and offline) who tend to make it an essential part of their identity. I realise it's a very impactful thing to have to deal with (I have ADHD too) but I feel like a lot of the time it's brought up for no real reason. E.g. you started daydreaming when reading a book? Forgot something to do when you walked through a doorway? Got angry? You…

I also feel like A LOT of people have ADHD (a lot more than it was initially estimated). I think like 50% or more of the population is neurodivergent (or maybe it's because neurodivergent people tend to group together, so everyone around you seems neurodivergent too).

If the majority are divergent, then what are they divergent from?

Re: Goblin.tools: simple, single-task tools to help neurodivergent people with tasks

#188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was going to reply to the same post with similar. If just having a label to apply alleviates the negative emotion, isn't it a placebo? I think a far far greater number of people experience the exact same problems of focus and distress, and learn to cope effectively in their own deeply personal way. I identify strongly with all the symptoms stated. A label feels useless, or worse - constraining, as it becomes your i…

I'm not the author of the post you critique. I suspect if you just have a "label" it doesn't do much. But the label now makes information a keyword search away. Hence their commentary: instead I can learn from and lean on hundreds of thousands of other people who have to cope with the same thing. Which would lead to learning strategies to deal with the day to day rather than struggling to find your own way. Knowledge…

> the label now makes information a keyword search away

I think this can become a double-edged sword in some cases. When applied to certain problems, especially ones with no clear-cut solution, additional knowledge can end up being misleading. (Disclaimer: this is only my experience, and I do not intend to speak for others!)

Example, I always used to frame issues I worked with in the language of ADHD, because I believed that was what best described my pathology. My lack of efficiency at work was an issue of a faulty "executive function". My ability to work uninterrupted for extended periods of time was "hyperfocus". My inability to accept criticism without feeling dejected is an indicator of "rejection sensitive dysphoria".

Yet, after I got therapy that worked for me, I realized three things in short order:

- In my own view, there were no deficits in my executive function. It had been intact the entire time. It was actually uncontrolled stress that was causing my executive function not to operate at its maximum capacity. Hence my problem had not been one of executive function, but of stress relief.

- "Hyperfocus" was merely another way for me of saying "putting sustained attention on an activity to cope with unchecked stress." I no longer consider myself to hyperfocus (which I define as working 3+ hours straight at a time, only stopping for food in between), but at the same time I don't perceive I've lost any of my abilities. On the contrary, I gained the ability to participate in and actually enjoy a wider variety of activities more consistently (cooking, cleaning, socialization, exercise, reading, and many others), as well as start and stop each activity when I please, without losing too much time to activities I only used as a coping mechanism for stress (doomscrolling, social media, etc.). In a sense, my interests became more balanced, even though I still carry the same level of passion for a few niche activities (arguably even stronger for some).

- Criticism does not hurt me as strongly as it did before, when I am aware the criticism is coming from a constructive place and is not merely the feelings of the other party making themselves clear in dramatic fashion. If it's the latter, I now have the ability to ignore the other party and move on. I am now also motivated to avoid going to places where people are likely to criticize me unconstructively. I understood that this was the way to deal with criticism in the past, but I was unable to internalize how to act and feel about criticism until now. Hence, I am no longer dysphoric in this way, if I ever was.

So at least in my view, after I gained a sense of inner peace not having to deal with runaway stress anymore, several problems that I used to see as pathological - having terms such as "executive function" and "dysphoria" - turned out not to be any kind of pathology at all. They were only the aftereffects of excessive daily stress.

In my case, these terms weren't the most helpful for me to understand and work on the real issues underlying my core self, and thus get back a much greater return for the effort I expended - which was much less effort than spending months, years and a lot of money on recurring therapies tailored towards framing my problems in an ADHD-centric way.

Re: Goblin.tools: simple, single-task tools to help neurodivergent people with tasks

#189
post #150
post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think most people would consider that launching a website is a separate task from viewing a website.

“Launching” an application (browser) has been a common phrase for as long as I can remember.

You are the only person discussing “launching an application” in this thread.

Re: Goblin.tools: simple, single-task tools to help neurodivergent people with tasks

#190
post #44

This could be overgeneralising a bit... but I see a lot of people with ADHD (on- and offline) who tend to make it an essential part of their identity. I realise it's a very impactful thing to have to deal with (I have ADHD too) but I feel like a lot of the time it's brought up for no real reason. E.g. you started daydreaming when reading a book? Forgot something to do when you walked through a doorway? Got angry? You…

Yeah making it a focal point of identity seems to be very popular online and I find it extremely offputting. For myself, medication helped little if at all and sometimes made me feel worse. Although I do notice a difference in my ability to focus with good diet and exercise, the biggest positive changes come from better sleep habits and nearly eliminating unnecessary tech use. ADHD is a dopamine disorder and our smartphones are little slot machines.
Post reply on HN