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Monster Cables picked the wrong guy to threaten (2008)

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Re: Monster Cables picked the wrong guy to threaten (2008)

#181

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> I think some people understand that error correction is normally present in digital audio The only such error correction I'm aware of is when reading data from a CD, which at this point is a tiny part of digital audio. Is there something I'm missing?

most digital signaling has error correction. pcie,SSDs, Ethernet etc

Not much of which is directly connected to digital audio as a specific thing, however.

Re: Monster Cables picked the wrong guy to threaten (2008)

#182

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> I think some people understand that error correction is normally present in digital audio The only such error correction I'm aware of is when reading data from a CD, which at this point is a tiny part of digital audio. Is there something I'm missing?

Error detection is present in S/PDIF PCM (including when transported on hdmi) and is also an inherent byproduct of most audio codecs when a digital bitstream is being used, which is normally the case today. FEC and other types of error correction or recovery is ubiquitous in wireless audio and communications applications including phone calls, Bluetooth, VoIP, wireless microphones, and digital radio. Responsibility f…

I guess being too close to the DAW-space, I tend not to think about codecs. Digital audio to me is conceptually "pure" PCM (or DSD), and most things that deals with that format do not do error correction that I can think of. S/PDIF is good counter-example, and possibly (for similar reasons) ADAT might be as well.

By contrast, most audio-over-IP formats do not (they rely on the IP-level checks).

Anyway, thanks for pointing out the rather important world filled with codecs that we actually live in.

Re: Monster Cables picked the wrong guy to threaten (2008)

#183
I bought a pair of utterly ludicrous Monster stereo speaker cables off eBay a coyotes of decades ago, when I was putting together a home audio system.

Audio stereophile-wise, I could replace them with zip wire (two conductor, twisted 24-gauge cable). But they wouldn't have the neat nylon braided jacket, or shove things out of the way when I'm moving the speakers.

It was stupid but fun to add them to my setup, and now I'm glad I have them.

I also have some interconnect cables from Blue Jeans Cable, that fellow is awesome.

If Monster is suing him, may they burn in court.

Re: Monster Cables picked the wrong guy to threaten (2008)

#184

I had no idea Monster sold anything other than over priced guitar cables... About 15 yeard ago, I knew a guy who exclusively bought Monster... well he had two of them, one from the guitar to the pedal board and another from the board to the amp. But it wasn't because of their alleged improved sound quality or whatever, it was because they had a lifetime warranty. Dude had bought two monster 1/4inch cables and gotten…

> Dude had bought two monster 1/4inch cables and gotten them replaced "for free" like 5 times. Every time I've had a cable fail it was at one of the solder joints on the connector. Stripping it down and re-soldering takes a few minutes, sure, but it saves you from having to drive to a music shop or pay for shipping. For this reason I try to only buy cables that are built to let you do this instead of ones with closed…

Back before monoprice was bought by a Chinese company, I had one of their HDMI cables, and yeah - the connector just slipped right off. Buncha thin gold wires sticking out.

I contacted them. They asked for a photo, which I was able to text them directly from my phone (very advanced for 2009). He looked at it, said it was their fault, and to toss it. Another was shipped to me.

I have a Logitech mouse that’s double clicking. One of the 10 (!!!) steps I was supposed to do before they’d accept that it’s broken was to go to a website and click 100 (!!!!!) times.

I sincerely miss the companies that were totally dedicated to customer service.

Re: Monster Cables picked the wrong guy to threaten (2008)

#185
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It's amazing to me that the writer of that piece walked away with the conclusion that Eric Alexander was in the right.

Just about everyone on YT as well as online sided with the reviewer because Tekton were being ridiculous.

I remember seeing his posts on ASR. Some really fun stuff like how the air coming out of the screw holes for the feet would produce a supersonic boom; in a ported enclosure. Wildly entertaining.

Re: Monster Cables picked the wrong guy to threaten (2008)

#186

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> Dude had bought two monster 1/4inch cables and gotten them replaced "for free" like 5 times. Every time I've had a cable fail it was at one of the solder joints on the connector. Stripping it down and re-soldering takes a few minutes, sure, but it saves you from having to drive to a music shop or pay for shipping. For this reason I try to only buy cables that are built to let you do this instead of ones with closed…

Back before monoprice was bought by a Chinese company, I had one of their HDMI cables, and yeah - the connector just slipped right off. Buncha thin gold wires sticking out. I contacted them. They asked for a photo, which I was able to text them directly from my phone (very advanced for 2009). He looked at it, said it was their fault, and to toss it. Another was shipped to me. I have a Logitech mouse that’s double cli…

> go to a website and click 100 (!!!!!) times.

Captchas are craaaaazy nowadays

/s

Re: Monster Cables picked the wrong guy to threaten (2008)

#187

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> Dude had bought two monster 1/4inch cables and gotten them replaced "for free" like 5 times. Every time I've had a cable fail it was at one of the solder joints on the connector. Stripping it down and re-soldering takes a few minutes, sure, but it saves you from having to drive to a music shop or pay for shipping. For this reason I try to only buy cables that are built to let you do this instead of ones with closed…

Back before monoprice was bought by a Chinese company, I had one of their HDMI cables, and yeah - the connector just slipped right off. Buncha thin gold wires sticking out. I contacted them. They asked for a photo, which I was able to text them directly from my phone (very advanced for 2009). He looked at it, said it was their fault, and to toss it. Another was shipped to me. I have a Logitech mouse that’s double cli…

I have this problem with my Logitech mice too. They work great for two or three years, and then they start registering about one in every 50 clicks or so as double clicks, with the frequency slowly increasing to maybe 1 in 10.

Re: Monster Cables picked the wrong guy to threaten (2008)

#188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Error detection is present in S/PDIF PCM (including when transported on hdmi) and is also an inherent byproduct of most audio codecs when a digital bitstream is being used, which is normally the case today. FEC and other types of error correction or recovery is ubiquitous in wireless audio and communications applications including phone calls, Bluetooth, VoIP, wireless microphones, and digital radio. Responsibility f…

I guess being too close to the DAW-space, I tend not to think about codecs. Digital audio to me is conceptually "pure" PCM (or DSD), and most things that deals with that format do not do error correction that I can think of. S/PDIF is good counter-example, and possibly (for similar reasons) ADAT might be as well. By contrast, most audio-over-IP formats do not (they rely on the IP-level checks). Anyway, thanks for poi…

In your DAW world, AES/EBU transport parity bit corrects most single bit errors as well. It’s a testament to the comprehensive handling of the issue that you as a professional do not need to do much thinking about the problem. Point is still that audio bit errors are historically accounted for due to the obvious consequences of a discontinuity. This persists, often with layers of redundancy, despite that they rarely occur. Video bit errors, not so much

Re: Monster Cables picked the wrong guy to threaten (2008)

#189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Dude had bought two monster 1/4inch cables and gotten them replaced "for free" like 5 times. Every time I've had a cable fail it was at one of the solder joints on the connector. Stripping it down and re-soldering takes a few minutes, sure, but it saves you from having to drive to a music shop or pay for shipping. For this reason I try to only buy cables that are built to let you do this instead of ones with closed…

Back before monoprice was bought by a Chinese company, I had one of their HDMI cables, and yeah - the connector just slipped right off. Buncha thin gold wires sticking out. I contacted them. They asked for a photo, which I was able to text them directly from my phone (very advanced for 2009). He looked at it, said it was their fault, and to toss it. Another was shipped to me. I have a Logitech mouse that’s double cli…

Sounds like all electronics shops got bought by a Chinese company (Newegg is another example). Are there any left? BestBuy maybe?

Re: Monster Cables picked the wrong guy to threaten (2008)

#190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Back before monoprice was bought by a Chinese company, I had one of their HDMI cables, and yeah - the connector just slipped right off. Buncha thin gold wires sticking out. I contacted them. They asked for a photo, which I was able to text them directly from my phone (very advanced for 2009). He looked at it, said it was their fault, and to toss it. Another was shipped to me. I have a Logitech mouse that’s double cli…

Sounds like all electronics shops got bought by a Chinese company (Newegg is another example). Are there any left? BestBuy maybe?

Jameco?
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