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Re: Microsoft is killing Skype

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Post by Macha »

high_na_euv wrote: post #145
crummy wrote: post #141

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This frustrates me too. Discord stores your messages forever for free! They're slowly eating Slack's lunch when it comes to internet communities... but I guess Slack doesn't really care; those communities were never going to pay any real money anyway.

Slowly? Discord is #1 in gaming and probably dev too

Yeah, I'd say discord taking skype's lunch in the gaming market was something that happened "rapidly" and "in 2016".

EDIT: Oh, this subthread is about slack.

I do think Slack's permissions model is better suited to business use than Discord's.

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Post by jim180 »

dzhiurgis wrote: post #139
jim180 wrote: post #58

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I use tello.com. You can get eSIM and activate it while you are outside the U.S. If you won't activate roaming, sms and calling will use wifi calling.

Do you know how providers detect your country when using wifi calling? Mine says it's only valid while you are within the country, wonder if VPN would work around it.

No idea, but Tello always worked outside of the U.S - Lithuania in my case.

I guess, provider will always consider your country where the phone number is located. Funny thing, while I'm roaming, my IP address will always be Lithuanian. It does not matter where the world I'm currently staying.

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Post by doublerabbit »

Macha wrote: post #176

Oh, that will be hard for my grandparents and some overseas family members. Someone managed to teach them Skype at great effort some years ago and it's still the main they use for video calling to see their grandkids. Probably will need to try teach them Google Meet or something instead, but they're not the most receptive to new tech.

Jitsi Meet.

My elderly mother uses it easy with the app on iPhone.

Minimal effort to join a conversations and supports all devices. Secure E2E if you host it yourself and has most features of zoom.

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Post by switch007 »

misantroop wrote: post #20

Microsoft help pages claiming that they will not refund your unused credits if your card has expired or details changed. So Microsoft effectively is taking all the users credit for themselves. Filing a complain with the appropriate EU regulator on this as debit/credit cards expire regularly and that's just an excuse for Microsoft to take your funds.

Legally I'm sure they're covered. We've probably purchased non refundable "credits" that just happen to show in a format that resembles money but absolutely aren't money or exchangeable for money.

It's not their first time at taking our unused money, sorry credits

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Post by KeplerBoy »

dcow wrote: post #132
KeplerBoy wrote: post #117

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And here we are, in a world where Apple has made arm work wonders for them and Windows still isn't really a thing on ARM 10 years after ballmer resigned. Then again arm doesn't seem to be necessary when looking at AMDs APU offerings. It was just a decade of intel struggling with their fabs.

Windows is definitely on arm. It just sucks because Qualcomm failed to deliver a good cpu package. The experience is within a stones throw of Apple, though. I also have one of the new AMD 300 AI platforms, and it still can’t do power right. Either the laptop is miserably slow on battery, or runs way too hot on power.

Yes, it is on arm and has been for decades in some form, but it's still nowhere near its M1 moment.

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Post by _7acn »

Literally every messaging platform Microsoft has ever created has always been terrible, and that remains true to this day. The only exception was Skype, which used to be good, but after Microsoft acquired it, it also became terrible.

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Post by mschuster91 »

johnnyanmac wrote: post #97
mschuster91 wrote: post #77

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> I've worked for a European company acquired by big tech in the US. My experience was that the Americans were quite full of themselves and didn't want to learn how we operated. Yup, that's also my experience. Americans are just like the unofficial President - they don't take "no" for an answer when they demand something, no matter what, unless you manage to get court judgements because that actually threatens the bo…

>Walmart employees are required to stand in formation and chant, “WALMART! WALMART! WALMART!” while performing synchronized group calisthenics. Do they still do this to this day? This is definitely an -ism of the early 2010's but I figured corporate stopped pretending that "we're family" by the close of the decade. The smiling argument makes perfect sense. I hear several EU countries simply have a more blunt approach…

> I hear several EU countries simply have a more blunt approach and pretty neutral mannerisms towards strangers. Americans would call the approach "cold", so there's definitely a cultral difference.

Yeah. To put it blunt: When I want to get smiled at, I either woo a partner or go to a brothel.

Re: Microsoft is killing Skype

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Post by mrintegrity »

high_na_euv wrote: post #138
drooopy wrote: post #101

The way Microsoft and Skype missed their opportunity during the pandemic to maintain or even expand their lead in video conferencing, while allowing a complete unknown (outside of the corporate world, at least) like Zoom to become the dominant platform, should be studied in business schools. The term 'Skype' is so synonymous with video calling that, based on personal experience, it is still used in place of FaceTime…

Missed? They grew Teams, lol. Zoom - wtf, who the hell uses it after. Discord would be better example since it is huge, even LLVM community uses it

Discord missed an opportunity to become the video calling and chat king, the smoothness of joining and leaving a group video chat when you please and the high quality video, audio and app support was exactly the kind of "just like being in the office but virtual" experience that teams, skype, slack, zoom, meet, etc lack. During peak covid it was a godsend having calls with friends and playing games together.

My dream service would be very like discord but with scheduled meeting support and completely open source and self hostable.

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