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AI is stifling new tech adoption?

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Re: AI is stifling new tech adoption?

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Post by serviceberry »

diggan wrote: post #150
killjoywashere wrote: post #30

Pathologists as a specialty has been grousing about this for several years, at least since 2021 when the College of American Pathologists established the AI Committee. As a trivial example: any trained model deployed will necessarily be behind any new classification of tumors. This makes it harder to push the science and clinical diagnosis of cancer forward. The entire music community has been complaining about how o…

> The entire music community has been complaining about how old music gets more recommendations on streaming platforms, necessarily making it harder for new music to break out. Compared to what though? Compared to Limeware/Kaazaa back in the day, or compared to buying records in a store? Personally, I find it easier than ever to find brand new music, mostly because Spotify still surfaces new things with ease for me (…

> Compared to what though? Compared to Limeware/Kaazaa back in the day, or compared to buying records in a store?

Compared to curation by other humans. Be it music labels, magazines, radio DJs, or a person sharing their playlist or giving you a mixtape.

In this model, tastes never overlap perfectly, so you're exposed to unfamiliar music fairly regularly, often in some emotional context that makes you more likely to accept something new.

Algorithms don't really do that. They could, but no one is designing them that way. If I listen predominantly to female vocalists on Spotify for a week, I'm only getting female vocalists from now on.

Re: AI is stifling new tech adoption?

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Post by idunnoman1222 »

killjoywashere wrote: post #30

Pathologists as a specialty has been grousing about this for several years, at least since 2021 when the College of American Pathologists established the AI Committee. As a trivial example: any trained model deployed will necessarily be behind any new classification of tumors. This makes it harder to push the science and clinical diagnosis of cancer forward. The entire music community has been complaining about how o…

This is the fault of the regulators. There’s no reason that new discoveries are not put in a queue to train a new AI and when there are enough to make it worth the run, you do the run and then you give the doctors old model and new model and they run both and compare the results.

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Post by darkerside »

kaonwarb wrote: post #46
killjoywashere wrote: post #30

Pathologists as a specialty has been grousing about this for several years, at least since 2021 when the College of American Pathologists established the AI Committee. As a trivial example: any trained model deployed will necessarily be behind any new classification of tumors. This makes it harder to push the science and clinical diagnosis of cancer forward. The entire music community has been complaining about how o…

I doubt it is easier to retrain a large, dispersed group of humans on a new classification of tumors than it is to retrain a model on the same.

Well, the difference is that people eventually die or retired so they are constantly being replaced

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Post by martinsnow »

raincole wrote: post #95
killjoywashere wrote: post #30

Pathologists as a specialty has been grousing about this for several years, at least since 2021 when the College of American Pathologists established the AI Committee. As a trivial example: any trained model deployed will necessarily be behind any new classification of tumors. This makes it harder to push the science and clinical diagnosis of cancer forward. The entire music community has been complaining about how o…

I know nothing about pathology, but in terms of software, I think slower adoption to new tech is what we need, especially when the "new tech" is just a 5% faster javascript framework. By the way, for content creation, the only platfrom that really favors new creators is TikTok. Whether it leads to higher content quality is left for one's judgement.

Web development isn't your thing either i see ;)

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Post by pjc50 »

spenvo wrote: post #135

Like several other commenters in this thread, I also wrote[0] something recently on a related topic: Google's AI Overviews and ChatGPT harm the discovery of long tail information - from a product builder's perspective. Basically, users are having a tougher time finding accurate info about your product ( even if the correct answer to their query is in Google's own search results ). And I also found the basic tier of C…

AI is going to solidify "convention wisdom" and "common sense" as whatever the AI says. That's why there's such a fight over what assumptions and biases get baked into that.

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Post by CharlieDigital »

Hasu wrote: post #111
trgn wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

had to have hooks though. And vanilla-OO had to go in favor of trapping state in closures, which is cooler because it has functions and not methods.

You can still use vanilla-OO React. Do you complain when other frameworks add new features without breaking backwards compatibility?

    > You can still use vanilla-OO React
What we want is signals-based React because it would singularly fix the issue that the compiler is solving for and remove the need to even have `useMemo` and `useCallback`, improve performance, and remove a huge footgun.

Because it has such a huge marketshare, a fix like this would have tremendous positive effects in web dev. We are all "forced" to use React so it would do all of us a great service if the team would just backstep and say "Oops, we made a design mistake here!". Instead, they spent almost 3 years building the compiler to sprinkle in memoization primitives because enough devs cannot get it right.

Re: AI is stifling new tech adoption?

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Post by sesm »

CharlieDigital wrote: post #172
sesm wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The blogpost in the first link doesn't mention Preact at all. Preact is mostly API-compatible with React, and it having a different underlying model is an extraordinary claim that requires extraordinary evidence. I've read the docs on Preact signals, and they look like React refs, but put outside of components. edit: the last paragraph about refs

> ...a different underlying model is an extraordinary claim that requires extraordinary evidence You are looking at the syntax and not the reactivity model (how it determines what functions to call when a change happens). The post doesn't need to mention Preact because every other framework is signals-based except for React. Vue is simply the stand-in for "signals-based reactivity". Vue has different syntax from Prea…

Preact is not signals-based, it uses the React model with state and props as the basic model, but also provides Signals as a parallel model.

Re: AI is stifling new tech adoption?

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Post by tolerance »

So what.

…if society continues to delegate more of their work to AI then we are going to fall back into the grips that inform us that some people are better at things than other people are and some are worse at things than other people are and this is what lies beneath the bridge of relying or not relying on AI to leverage your capacity to think and act on what you feel.

I think that People who will be willing to put in effort for their crafts without AI will be the ones who will be willing to try out new things and seek opportunities for ingenuity in the future. I think that the problem people have with this idea is that it runs counter to notions related to—ahem—

diversity, equity and inclusion…

On one hand and on it’s little finger is the legitimate concern that if companies who develop LLMs are not transparent with the technologies they make available to users when generating code, then they’ll hide all the scary and dangerous things that they make available to the people who’ll think, act and feel corrupt regardless of the tools they wield to impose disadvantages onto others. But I don’t think that will make a difference.

The only way out is hard work in a world bent on making the work easy after it makes you weak.

Re: AI is stifling new tech adoption?

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Post by wruza »

stevemadere wrote: post #155

This is truly terrible. What happened to a new JS front end library every week? If this keeps up, we won't get to completely throw away all of our old code and retool every two years (the way we've been operating for the last 20 years) How will we ever spend 85% of our time spinning up on new js front end libraries? And don't even get me started on the back end. If AI had been around in 2010, we probably still have s…

As if web/css wasn't a new gui library no one asked for. Peak programming was VB6 & Delphi 6 (maybe 7). Everything after that was just treading water in increasingly degenerate ways.
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