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Re: Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

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if it would make whole market research on products and companies I would gladly pay for it... but a bit unsure from Europe where it seems to be everything restricted due political boundaries.

I have OpenAI Deep Research access in Europe and it is extremely good. It's also particularly good at niche market research in products and companies. Happy to give you a demo. If you want to send me a prompt, I can share a link to the resulting output.

I wish to know how to access it for myself, but how may I contact you?

is it chatGPT Plus, Pro or something else? Where are you based UK or Germany?

I was hoping for a market research on SysML tooling.

Re: Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

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it sucks btw. I tried scheduling an event in google calendar through gemini, and it got the date wrong, the time wrong, and the timezone wrong. it set an event that's supposed to be tomorrow to next year.

To be fair, the best human programmers struggle like hell with date math.

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It's not that big of a news because they already had gemini-exp-1206 on the API - they just didn't say it was Gemini 2.0 Pro until today. Now the AI Studio marks it as 2.0 Pro Experimental - basically an older snapshot, the newer one is gemini-2.0-pro-exp-02-05.

Oh so the previous model gemini-exp-1206 is now gemini-2.0-pro-experimental on aistudio? Is it better than gemini-2.0-flash-thinking-exp?

It's not a thinking model, and as such is probably going to be good and bad at different things. For the handful of prompts I've thrown at both, it (exp-1206) was generally better than gemin-2.0-flash-thinking-exp, but that could easily be a property of the prompts I tried.

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Google is the least confusing to me. Old school version number and Pro is better than Flash which is fast and for "simple" stuff (which can be effortless intermediate level coding at this point). OpenAI is crazy. There may be a day when we might have o5 that is reasoning and 5o that is not, and where they belong to different generations too, snd where "o" meant "Omni" despite o1-o3 not being audiovisual anymore like…

4o is a more advanced model than o1 or o3, right!?

Imagine when they launch o4...

Re: Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

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I always get to, “You may not use the Services to develop models that compete with the Services (e.g., Gemini API or Google AI Studio).” [1] and exit - [1] https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/terms

I just ignore that. If I'm ever large enough to be worth suing, I'll be very happy.

Re: Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

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Try out the new models at https://aistudio.google.com . It's a great way to experiment with all the Gemini models that are also available via the API. If you haven't yet, try also Live mode at https://aistudio.google.com/live . You can have a live conversation with Gemini and have the model see the world via your phone camera (or see your desktop via screenshare on the web), and talk about it. It's quite a cool exper…

Except Gemini multimodal outputs are still under lock and key except for a select few.

Very disappointing to see the claim Gemini 2.0 is available for everyone when it's simply not. Seems like Google is following the OpenAI playbook on this.

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There's nothing wrong with (and in fact much to be said in favor of) a "no politics" rule. When I was growing up it was common advice to not discuss politics/religion in mixed company. At one point I thought that was stupid fuddy-duddy advice, because people are adults and can act reasonably even if they disagree. But as I get older, I realize that I was wrong: people really, really can't control their emotions when…

As an outsider's perspective: This aspect of American culture seems self-reinforcing. It's not like things can't get heated when people in much of the rest of the world discuss politics. But if the subject isn't entirely verboten, adults will have some practice in agreeing to disagree, and moving on. With AI this particular cultural export has gone from a quaint oddity, to something that, as a practical matter, can b…

Will people really agree to disagree and move on, though? That certainly hasn't been my experience. Over time I have found that some people can do that. For example, my wife and I actually very rarely agree on political matters, but when we do discuss them I know that neither of us will belittle the other or walk away thinking the other is a horrible monster. But that's rare in my experience. So I only talk politics IRL with people who I know have that ability, and it takes time to feel out who can and can't be trusted to do that. Thus, I don't talk politics in mixed company.

I also think another aspect of the "no politics" rule which is important is that it attempts to preserve spaces where people can just enjoy things. People need to escape from politics and just enjoy the good things in life together. This is important for personal mental health but also social cohesion, as it's extremely difficult to have positive relationships with those you only ever argue politics with. If we don't have spaces which enforce a no politics rule, you can't ever unplug from the madness and that isn't good.

Re: Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

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I always get to, “You may not use the Services to develop models that compete with the Services (e.g., Gemini API or Google AI Studio).” [1] and exit - [1] https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/terms

I just ignore that. If I'm ever large enough to be worth suing, I'll be very happy.

They don't need to sue, they'll just ban your account with no warning or explanation the moment you get on their radar.. at least that's what they did to me.

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> Talk about shipping the org chart. To be fair, Microsoft has shipped like five AI portals in the last two years. Maybe four — I don’t even know any more. I’ve lost track of the renames and product (re)launches.

They made a new one to unite them all: Microsoft Fabric. https://xkcd.com/927/

Fabric is their unified data and reporting service… which also does a bit of AI (of course).

The latest one is Azure AI Foundry: https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/discussions/marketplace-...

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