Those models can be trained in way tailored to have good results on specific benchmarks, making them way less general than it seems. No accusation from me, but I'm skeptical on all the recent so called 'breakthroughs'.
S1: A $6 R1 competitor?
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Re: S1: A $6 R1 competitor?
#182Earlier quoted context omitted.
oh god, this is terrible! I just said "Hello!" and it went off the rails.
why how what? can you add a sample prompt with output ?
>>> hello!
Hello there! I'm here to help with any questions you might have. How can I assist you today? If you're asking a question, feel free to provide some details about what you need help with. I'll do my best to answer your question or guide you through the process. Just let me know!
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The user has asked "hello! " and provided no further information. Answer here is a direct response to the user's request for information, which was essentially just a greeting. The appropriate response is to greet back and offer assistance.
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Answer:
Hello! How can I assist you today? If you have a question or need help with something specific, feel free to ask. I'm here to support you!
think
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The user's message was "hello!" and there was no other information provided. The appropriate response is a greeting back and an offer of assistance.
answer
Answer:
Hello! How can I assist you today? If you have a question or need help with something specific, feel free to ask. I'm here to support you!
think
The user has greeted with "hello!" An appropriate response involves acknowledging the greeting and offering assistance. This could involve asking how we can help them or what they'd like guidance on.
answer
Answer:
Hello! How can I assist you today? If you have a question or need help with something specific, feel free to ask. I'm here to support you!
Re: S1: A $6 R1 competitor?
#183Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is pure speculation on my part but I think at some point a company's valuation became tied to how big their compute is so everybody jumped on the bandwagon.
So, "No one was ever fired for ... buying more server infrastructure."
Re: S1: A $6 R1 competitor?
#184Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is this a clever rhetorical trick to make it appear that your prior claim was correct? If not: what am I intended to take away from this? What is its relevance to my comment?
You made a joke about questioning reality, I simply entertained it. You can do whatever you want with it, wasn’t a slight at all.
I think it is interesting what actions cannot be done by humans.
Re: S1: A $6 R1 competitor?
#185I found the discussion around inference scaling with the 'Wait' hack so surreal. The fact such an ingeniously simple method can impact performance makes me wonder how many low-hanging fruit we're still missing. So weird to think that improvements on a branch of computer science is boiling down to conjuring the right incantation words, how you even change your mindset to start thinking this way?
Re: S1: A $6 R1 competitor?
#186I have a bunch of questions, would love for anyone to explain these basics: * The $5M DeepSeek-R1 (and now this cheap $6 R1) are both based on very expensive oracles (if we believe DeepSeek-R1 queried OpenAI's model). If these are improvements on existing models, why is this being reported as decimating training costs? Isn't fine-tuning already a cheap way to optimize? (maybe not as effective, but still) * The R1 pap…
Re: S1: A $6 R1 competitor?
#187I found the discussion around inference scaling with the 'Wait' hack so surreal. The fact such an ingeniously simple method can impact performance makes me wonder how many low-hanging fruit we're still missing. So weird to think that improvements on a branch of computer science is boiling down to conjuring the right incantation words, how you even change your mindset to start thinking this way?
I've noticed that R1 says "Wait," a lot in its reasoning. I wonder if there's something inherently special in that token.
Consider the text:
I think I'll go swimming today. Wait, ___
what comes next? Well, not something that would usually follow without the word "wait", probably something entirely orthogonal that impacts the earlier sentence in some fundamental way, like:
Wait, I need to help my dad.
Re: S1: A $6 R1 competitor?
#188Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is pure speculation on my part but I think at some point a company's valuation became tied to how big their compute is so everybody jumped on the bandwagon.
I don't think you need to speculate too hard. On CNBC they are not tracking revenue, profits or technical breakthroughs, but how much the big companies are spending (on gpus). That's the metric!
Re: S1: A $6 R1 competitor?
#189I think a lot of people in the ML community were excited for Noam Brown to lead the O series at OpenAI because intuitively, a lot of reasoning problems are highly nonlinear i.e. they have a tree-like structure. So some kind of MCTS would work well. O1/O3 don’t seem to use this, and DeepSeek explicitly mentioned difficulties training such a model. However, I think this is coming. DeepSeek mentioned it was hard to lear…
Do you have a reference for us to check? - "DeepSeek explicitly mentioned difficulties training such a model."
Re: S1: A $6 R1 competitor?
#190The larger the organisation, the less experiments you can afford to do. Employees are mostly incentivised by getting something done quick enough to not to be fired in this job market. They know that the higher-ups would get them off for temporary gains. Rush this deadline, ship that feature, produce something that looks OK enough.