Having this trained on more complex UIs for heavy machinery, or heck, a submarine's instruments means that complicated tasks can now be very easily automated. Obviously this won't happen next Monday, but I give it 5 years.
more like 18 months
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#182What is fascinating about this announcement is if you look into future after considerable improvements in product and the model, we will be just chatting with ChatGPT to book dinner tables, flights, buy groceries and do all sort of mundane and hugely boring things we do on the web, just by talking to the agents. I'd definitely love that.
Are our attention spans so shot that we consider booking a reservation at a restaurant or buying groceries "hugely boring"? And do we value convenience so much that we're willing to sacrifice a huge breadth of options for whatever sponsor du jour OpenAI wants to serve us just to save less than 10 minutes? And would this company spend billions of dollars for this infinitesimally small increase in convenience? No, of c…
The potential of x-Models (x=ll, transformer, tts, etc), which are not AI, to perfect the flooding of social media with bullshit to increase the sales of drop-shipped garbage to hundreds of millions of people is so great that there is a near-infinite stream of money available to be spent on useless shit like this.
Talking to an x-Model (still not AI), just like talking to a human, has never been, is not now, and will never be faster than looking at an information-dense table of data.
x-Models (will never be AI) will eat the world though, long after the dream of talking to a computer to reserve a table has died, because they are so good at flooding social media with bullshit to facilitate the sales of drop-shipped garbage to hundreds of millions of people.
That being said, it is highly likely that is an extremely large group of people who are so braindead that they need a robot to click through TripAdvisor links for them to create a boring, sterile, assembly-line one-day tour of Rome.
Whether or not those people have enough money to be extracted from them to make running such a service profitable remains to be seen.
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#183I can already imagine "The Last Question"[1] playing out in real life — it's both fascinating and scary. [1] Last Question By Isaac Asimov https://users.ece.cmu.edu/~gamvrosi/thelastq.html
And here's an illustrated version for anyone interested: https://imgur.com/gallery/last-question-9KWrH
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#184> and even creating memes. important work. glad to hear they're investing $500B in this space instead of stuff like, I don't know, making the planet livable for our grandkids
"Operator, I need to purchase 78,000 widgets for my company. Please find the best deal among suppliers who ship using carriers and ports who meet or exceed US EPA guidelines. Please ensure at least 50% of the product is sourced from post-consumer waste, and order your responses by price per unit."
I wonder why they didn't put that in the press release. Huh.
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#186I strongly believe we need to use Open APIs for agents. OpenAPI is the perfect specification standard that would allow for an open world and an open internet for agents. When OpenAI first came out with their first version of GPTs, it was all based on open APIs. Now they are moving away from it more and more. This means they want to control the market because they don't want to base it on an open standard. It's such a…
It will never happen. Same reason why we post screenshots from social network A in social network B. Many don’t even want to put in the simplest of all APIs: a simple link to an external website.
As long as people make money from meatspace eyeballs looking at banners, these agents will be actively blocked or restricted just like all other scrapers.
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#187A lot of people here seem to think this is somehow for their benefit, or that OpenAI and friends are trying to make something useful for the average person. They aren't spending billions of dollars to give everyone a personal assistant. They are spending billions now to save even more in wages later, and we are paying for the privilege of training their AI to do it. By the time this thing is useful enough to actually…
Don't worry, it'll never be good enough to actually be a personal assistant.
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#188A lot of people here seem to think this is somehow for their benefit, or that OpenAI and friends are trying to make something useful for the average person. They aren't spending billions of dollars to give everyone a personal assistant. They are spending billions now to save even more in wages later, and we are paying for the privilege of training their AI to do it. By the time this thing is useful enough to actually…
I think it's less a problem of cost for the average person and more a problem of setting the market price for them at a fraction of the current one. This has such a deflationary impact that it's unlikely captured or even conceivable by the current economic models.
There's a problem of "target fixation" about the capabilities and it captures most conversation, when in fact most public focus should be on public policy and ensuring this has the impact that the society wants.
IMO whether things are going to be good or bad depends on having a shared understanding, thinking, discussion and decisions around what's going to happen next.
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#189What is fascinating about this announcement is if you look into future after considerable improvements in product and the model, we will be just chatting with ChatGPT to book dinner tables, flights, buy groceries and do all sort of mundane and hugely boring things we do on the web, just by talking to the agents. I'd definitely love that.
Are our attention spans so shot that we consider booking a reservation at a restaurant or buying groceries "hugely boring"? And do we value convenience so much that we're willing to sacrifice a huge breadth of options for whatever sponsor du jour OpenAI wants to serve us just to save less than 10 minutes? And would this company spend billions of dollars for this infinitesimally small increase in convenience? No, of c…
I'm reminded of Kurt Vonnegut's famous story about buying postage stamps: https://www.insidehook.com/wellness/kurt-vonnegut-advice
"I stamp the envelope and mail it in a mailbox in front of the post office, and I go home. And I’ve had a hell of a good time. And I tell you, we are here on Earth to fart around, and don’t let anybody tell you any different...How beautiful it is to get up and go do something."
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#190It’s no good, get stuck in infinite loops and it couldn’t order me a chicken fried rice from Uber eats in 10 minutes so idk why they even released it. Dont they have 500B, why take my 200$ lol