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Meta Wants More AI Bots on Facebook and Instagram

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Re: Meta Wants More AI Bots on Facebook and Instagram

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The way to fix facebook is to get off of facebook. Time for the next thing already!

What is that? Facebook fills a niche that nothing else tries to. Facebook also does lots of other things that others do better, but they have a niche in sharing the semi private lives of friends with each other that nothing else does.

Semi private life sharing can be done in a discord 'house'. There are many other platforms that fill that same niche.

Re: Meta Wants More AI Bots on Facebook and Instagram

#183

This gave me a funny idea for a new social media app... One that's centered around "you" and filled with thousands/millions of LLM bots praising you, treating you like a celebrity, etc. Each of your posts will get tens of thousands of "likes", hundreds of comments, etc. Dm's straight to your feed, people wanting you, etc etc. If the newsfeed is already mostly "the algorithm", might as well take it to the extreme. I b…

I don't know, I feel like you have be a pretty low IQ person (I'm talking about the millions of people on the far left of the IQ bell curve) to consider any interaction with a bot as socially meaningful or stimulating (dopamine). Maybe if you used some future LLM and hidden the "this is a bot" icon, more people would interact, but as it stands, only dumb people (and there's not that many of them, again, normal distri…

It's not IQ but emotional intelligence. Resistance to high pressure tactics is its own thing. You may be foolish (unwise) if you fall for: (1) the extended service plan when you buy a new car, (2) get convinced you need to pay the IRS or FBI with gift cards, (3) get hit with a one-two punch of love and crypto. You're not necessarily low IQ.

Personally I've had many fun conversations with A.I. that made me feel good, even a little giddy, but I've had my share of experience with getting giddy and can recognize it for what it is. (see [1] for some explanation of what I mean of "giddy") My profile for the person who falls for the crypto scam who is 50+, has been in love and can recall what it feels like (a loveless 25 year old has themselves to blame, a 50+ could have had it and lost it) but is lonely because they've lost love)

My evil twin would say that if you're trying to seduce people your "self" in the sense of [1] can get in the way. For one thing people have a desire to get mirrored which you can not always do because of the "counter-transference", in the sexual space you might find somebody else's turn on is a turn off for you for instance and it can be very hard to suppress that enough to keep somebody on the hook as it shows in terms of tension in your body, facial microexpressions, a faltering voice, etc. If you are lucky they are so self-absorbed that they don't notice; you get hundreds of chances to screw this up and most people find it tiring to keep up the front.

There's a continuous male complaint, for instance, that women often seem to be attracted to "bad boys" who are low in conscientiousness and have sociopathic characteristics. That kind of person just "doesn't give a ----" and they don't worry about things and don't give off tells. Somebody conscientious who is always worried about doing the right thing is worried and radiates that worry. Although the sociopath's behavior leads to chaos in the end, in the short term they radiate calm which makes women feel calm.

I (we? am I becoming a person with pronoun problems?) think the A.I. girlfriend can do a better job of mirroring than most real people because it doesn't have a self, doesn't have a counter-transference, it doesn't get offended, doesn't get squicked out, etc.

I'd say seduction has a lot to do with the popularity of coding assistants. Combine a little obsequiousness with what looks like a mind that's engaged on your projects (appears to take an interest in what they are interested in) and you can feel a kind of satisfaction working with a coding assistant and you can even feel like you're doing something meaningful when it asks for you help with it's tools and you tell it "You're running on Windows, the path does not start with /, it starts with C: and you should use the backslash instead of the slash."

[1] https://monoskop.org/images/9/96/Baudrillard_Jean_Seduction....

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self_psychology

Re: Meta Wants More AI Bots on Facebook and Instagram

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Marketplace… somehow they took over the marketplace for used stuff and killed cl. OfferUp was always crap so it doesn’t count.

I haven't used Facebook itself for 7 or 8 years now, but had to break down and make a private account just to access Marketplace. For buying used cars private party today, it seems like Marketplace is the only good option.

Do sellers question the ghost account? I've had that happen to me the few times I've tried using my dev account to make inquiries.

Re: Meta Wants More AI Bots on Facebook and Instagram

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post #171

Facebook Meta has been making baffling bets lately. They spent tens of billions building a metaverse with the belief that people want to spend their days in a creepy legless 3d avatar of themselves that is pretty effective at simulating what it feels to have body dysphoria, playing with their other legless friends and spending a lot of money customizing their dysphoric avatars. Now they believe what users really want…

Same here, I am baffled by making llama free for all to use. Only incentive I see for them is to remove barriers to ai slop generation. So, their platforms become stickier.

Risky bet if you ask me.

Re: Meta Wants More AI Bots on Facebook and Instagram

#187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They probably looking at their metrics and finding their primary user base loves AI content. https://www.buzzfeed.com/sienaegiljum/ai-images-facebook-boo...

I’m pretty sure everyone involved is a bot. The con is pulled on the ad buyers

No, there are people on Facebook really do like AI slop.

My Nonna unironically loves the AI Jesus gifs and AI gifs of dogs washing babies.

Many elderly people, I think, don’t know or care if an image is AI generated.

Re: Meta Wants More AI Bots on Facebook and Instagram

#188

This gave me a funny idea for a new social media app... One that's centered around "you" and filled with thousands/millions of LLM bots praising you, treating you like a celebrity, etc. Each of your posts will get tens of thousands of "likes", hundreds of comments, etc. Dm's straight to your feed, people wanting you, etc etc. If the newsfeed is already mostly "the algorithm", might as well take it to the extreme. I b…

It might be heavy, but I really like the idea of someone building this to run offline and completely on-device. Maybe branded as a sort of 'personal journal with an audience'. My experience with mobile diaries is the biggest challenge is encouraging the user to keep up the habit. I'm very curious if this could be solved by introducing a new cycle of feedback from AI peers who would feign curiosity about my life.

Could you see people using that?

Re: Meta Wants More AI Bots on Facebook and Instagram

#189
post #89
post #70

Instagram just asked if I wanted to chat with a Hawk Tuah AI bot. To me that’s the clearest possible evidence that the product people over there have basically given up. It reminds me of when Facebook went all-in on Live Video in 2016 — a product direction that pretty obviously came from the top.

Facebook the app/website is already dead, as only boomers and people like me (not yet boomers but not young, either) are now its only remaining users, while IG is going into the same realm of irrelevance, mostly because millennials (its main audience) have spiritually become boomers-like themselves. As such, Meta is throwing everything at the wall hoping that something, anything, will stick.

The only thing I can take away from this message is that literally everybody is a boomer. By inference

- post boomer: dead

- boomer: old

- aspiring boomer: middle-aged

- spiritual boomer: almost middle-aged

- pre-boomer: young

Re: Meta Wants More AI Bots on Facebook and Instagram

#190
post #171

Facebook Meta has been making baffling bets lately. They spent tens of billions building a metaverse with the belief that people want to spend their days in a creepy legless 3d avatar of themselves that is pretty effective at simulating what it feels to have body dysphoria, playing with their other legless friends and spending a lot of money customizing their dysphoric avatars. Now they believe what users really want…

Same here, I am baffled by making llama free for all to use. Only incentive I see for them is to remove barriers to ai slop generation. So, their platforms become stickier. Risky bet if you ask me.

That's about commoditizing the competition. Also it wasn't the original plan potentially, the LLAMA weights leaked and maybe they shifted strategies as a result.
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