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Re: They see your photos

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Post by fauigerzigerk »

FollowingTheDao wrote: post #171
makeitdouble wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for the clarification. My family library is around 1Tb, the weakest device is an iPhone SE, and the most used access is through a web browser. Does on-device machine learning (provided you're syncing inter-device) work in that scenario ?

If I can interrupt.. Wow, 1TB of photos? This is just astonishing to me. What is the use of so many images? As an ex semi-pro photographer, one of the things I realized is that what makes photographs special to people, even family photographs, is the rarity of them. So I just cannot understand taking and holding on to this many images. I would find just managing the images would take away time and money from my famil…

>What is the use of so many images?

For me the problem is that I'm not a great photographer. I take loads of bad photos. It would take me far too much time to go through all of them and decide which ones to keep.

Also, my wife and I sometimes look at old photos for reasons that have nothing to do with the quality of the photo or even with reminiscing. Instead, we may look for some specific fact (mole, dental issue, dress, haircut, domestic repairs, flooded footpaths, etc). The more photos we keep, the more likely it is that we can find what we're looking for.

Re: They see your photos

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Post by vidyava »

throwaway81523 wrote: post #114

For all 4 of their sample photos and one that I uploaded, their thing failed to notice that there were humans in the pictures. It said the opposite, that there weren't any. I'm disappointed. The one I uploaded is one that I took some years ago, but I've forgotten the time and place, and I'd like to have had it tell me.

If you're using a browser with heavy anti-fingerprinting capabilities it will upload a randomized canvas image instead of the intended image, and you'll get a lot of descriptions of pictures of wavy lines and no people.

Re: They see your photos

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Post by ben_w »

sneak wrote: post #90
kylehotchkiss wrote: post #53

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One company has the capacity to maintain HIPAA compliance and the other is best known for vacuuming up the entire web and users prompts. For something as sensitive as family photos, I know which company/product I'd prefer for this potential project.

Google also vacuums up the entire web and users’ prompts? I am confused thoroughly by this position. It seems like emotions, not facts.

I was going to say something similar.

Google's mission statement is to "organize the world's information", and the only thing stopping them is when they run into copyright laws or paywalls.

OpenAI (and indeed all the LLM providers) has gone almost as far as it can usefully go with bigger training sets, even without literally everything on the web, and now try to make the models smarter in other ways.

(OpenAI may also lose their current copyright lawsuits because laws don't care that both an LLM and PageRank are big matrix multiplications, they care about the impact on rights holders).

Re: They see your photos

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Post by phoronixrly »

jakjak123 wrote: post #179
IshKebab wrote: post #150

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> Terrible search without AI is a bit of a stretch. How so? I was looking for a photo of a grave I took some years ago. In Google photos I just searched for "grave" and if found 2 photos, including the one I wanted. Without AI I would have to search all my photos. Maybe I could narrow it down by date and location but it would take a lot longer.

I have 100s of grave photos. Browsing by location would be way simpler

Same, albums/rough location + time is more than enough for me with 20 years worth of photos... It is far from terrible.

Re: They see your photos

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Post by jeksp »

I don’t see the problem here, if you remove the metadata from the image you are left with a very bland ChatGPT description of the image that sounds like a fifth grader trying to hit a minimum word count on an essay. Even if a photo service did this with every single image I have on my phone right now I don’t care.

This is just another attempt to shoehorn AI into absolutely anything

Re: They see your photos

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Post by bArray »

diggan wrote: post #160
rsync wrote: post #148

magick convert IMG_1111.HEIC -strip -quality 87 -shave 10x10 -resize 91% -attenuate 1.1 +noise Uniform out.jpg This will strip ALL exif metadata, change the quality, shave 10 pixels off each edge just because , resize to xx%, attenuate, and adds noise of type "Uniform". Some additional notes: - attenuate needs to come before the +noise switch in the command line - the worse the jpeg quality figure, the harder it is t…

Clearly better than nothing, but how does it work with perceptual hashes? I gave it five minutes to try to get pHash to run locally but didn't manage to get any useful results from it, I was probably holding it wrong.

Could probably get one of the many repos up and running pretty quickly [1].

Potentially what you could do is generate smaller versions of the images, test their hash matching under different conditions against multiple algorithms and then pick the parameters where you get fewest hash collisions.

[1] https://github.com/JohannesBuchner/imagehash

Re: They see your photos

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Post by 0points »

rsync wrote: post #148

magick convert IMG_1111.HEIC -strip -quality 87 -shave 10x10 -resize 91% -attenuate 1.1 +noise Uniform out.jpg This will strip ALL exif metadata, change the quality, shave 10 pixels off each edge just because , resize to xx%, attenuate, and adds noise of type "Uniform". Some additional notes: - attenuate needs to come before the +noise switch in the command line - the worse the jpeg quality figure, the harder it is t…

cropping or recompressing the image helps with nothing.

see tineye reverse image search, it matches such variations with ease

https://tineye.com/

Re: They see your photos

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Post by BadHumans »

downWidOutaFite wrote: post #145
autoexec wrote: post #92

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> No it isn't. A democracy only works with informed voters. By that logic we can never have a working democracy because collectively voters will always be ignorant and misinformed to some extent. We can't force voters to educate themselves on the issues and can't stop them from lying to themselves or to each other. We can do things to improve the situation, just as there has been a sustained and coordinated effort to…

My real problem is with the claim that they have a mandate to tear the government apart. That's not what they told voters during the election. They don't have a mandate for that.

They absolutely told voters during the election they were going to destroy government. They might not have said "Project 2025 is how we are going to dismantle the government" but he said he was going to give himself the ability to remove "rogue" federal employees and overhaul or remove federal agencies.

Re: They see your photos

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Post by magicalhippo »

IshKebab wrote: post #150
phoronixrly wrote: post #47

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Terrible search without AI is a bit of a stretch. Also Google does not have a monopoly on object/face recognition in photos. There are self-hosted solutions that readily provide you with that without feeding a faceless AI with your photos while boiling the ocean.

> Terrible search without AI is a bit of a stretch. How so? I was looking for a photo of a grave I took some years ago. In Google photos I just searched for "grave" and if found 2 photos, including the one I wanted. Without AI I would have to search all my photos. Maybe I could narrow it down by date and location but it would take a lot longer.

I've been playing with LLama 3.2 Vision 8B for such a use-case, and found it does a good job at providing image descriptions which could be indexed, along with transcription of any text in the image, such as the name on the grave in this case.

So should be possible to have a similar capability locally now.

Re: They see your photos

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Post by Retr0id »

This would be pretty great for generating descriptions for the vision-impaired, but it doesn't provide any profound insight beyond what you can tell from a glance.

It has a lot of "trying to sound smart" waffle, for example, it had this to say about some tree branches:

> A careful observer will also note the subtle variations in the thickness and texture of the branches, implying a natural, organic growth pattern.

Gee, thanks, I might've thought it was an unnatural inorganic tree otherwise.

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