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WPEngine, Inc. vs. Automattic– Order on Motion for Preliminary Injunction

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Re: WPEngine, Inc. vs. Automattic– Order on Motion for Preliminary Injunction

#181

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No, couldn't possibly have been wrong, because YC agreed with them. Again: you're missing what Dan is saying. The thread isn't about Dropbox-the-product. It's about the YC application Drew Houston wrote to pitch Dropbox. I really don't think there's a way to rhetoric your way out of this one!

But do you think the commenter meant „here are my issues with this YC application, you should make those points more clear: …“ or do you think he meant „here are my issues with this YC application, you should find something else to do!“? Because to me it seems like he’s criticizing the product itself, not just the presentation.

The former.

Re: WPEngine, Inc. vs. Automattic– Order on Motion for Preliminary Injunction

#182
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Wasn't it good that he kept talking though? Sorry for being crass, but I'd prefer him loosing this case.

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> Apologies for this. Not trying to be a grammar nazi

You can frame the nitpicking positively: "a good comment like yours deserves good grammar/spelling: I think you meant ..., not ..."

Re: WPEngine, Inc. vs. Automattic– Order on Motion for Preliminary Injunction

#183

I hope Matt considers placing all the community resources of Wordpress into the foundation, including Wordpress.org, constituting an actual board, contributing funds, and setting up a governance and contribution system that matches the open ethos of the license and community. I think this is an area that Drupal gets right, and Dries wrote an interesting post about it in October: https://dri.es/solving-the-maker-taker…

This is pretty on the nose considering Matt's latest blog post[1]. I feel for Matt in some regard, and I do think the lawsuit sets a precedent that OSS developers are required to provide software with warranty. However, I say that with not fully understanding the seperation of actions between Automattic the company and Matt in his own personal capacity. [1] https://ma.tt/2024/12/drupalcon-singapore/

> OSS developers are required to provide software with warranty

This injunction is against WPcom (a for profit entity) and not WPorg. Matt conducted tortious interference. This sets zero precedent on OSS maintainers.

Re: WPEngine, Inc. vs. Automattic– Order on Motion for Preliminary Injunction

#185

I hope Matt considers placing all the community resources of Wordpress into the foundation, including Wordpress.org, constituting an actual board, contributing funds, and setting up a governance and contribution system that matches the open ethos of the license and community. I think this is an area that Drupal gets right, and Dries wrote an interesting post about it in October: https://dri.es/solving-the-maker-taker…

I don't see this happening, as it would de-throne Matt and Matt hasn't shown any "remorse", any understanding of him being the issue and that there's a clear conflict of interest. No, in fact he keeps doubling down [1] on claiming that all of his/Automattic's efforts are happening for the good of open source and the community. [1] https://x.com/automattic/status/1866644684057248090

Agreed. Matt thinks he is solely responsible for this cafelog fork taking over so much of the Internet… he needs some humble pie…

Re: WPEngine, Inc. vs. Automattic– Order on Motion for Preliminary Injunction

#186
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> Here, Mullenweg’s “statement that he had the right to disable WPEngine’s account access and to make changes to the ACF plugin for the sake of public safety[,]” see Opp. at 27-28, is belied by the declarations of WPEngine’s executives stating that the claimed vulnerability was minor [...] @photomatt literally screwed himself over by talking about his actions here, when everyone was screaming at him to shut the fuck…

I'm not sure how many people (including myself) told him to stop talking about the case on Hacker News. He never listened.

Like every dictator, he knows better than you, me or anyone. If you don't believe that, just ask him.

Re: WPEngine, Inc. vs. Automattic– Order on Motion for Preliminary Injunction

#187

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This is pretty on the nose considering Matt's latest blog post[1]. I feel for Matt in some regard, and I do think the lawsuit sets a precedent that OSS developers are required to provide software with warranty. However, I say that with not fully understanding the seperation of actions between Automattic the company and Matt in his own personal capacity. [1] https://ma.tt/2024/12/drupalcon-singapore/

>and I do think the lawsuit sets a precedent that OSS developers are required to provide software with warranty If Matt hadn't tried to extort WP Engine he would have been perfectly within his right to say "large hosts have to pay to use the WordPress plugin directory". The injunction is purely about one specific company who was allegedly harmed by Automattic.

The other lasting problem is that he completely destroyed the foundation’s credibility as an independent organization. I don’t see it retaining non-profit status unless he and his cronies are completely removed.

It’d make sense for a true non-profit to ask all hosting companies and other high volume users to help fund it, but if it’s not a fully-owned subsidiary of Automattic that’d be everyone, not just when he needs leverage against one company.

Re: WPEngine, Inc. vs. Automattic– Order on Motion for Preliminary Injunction

#188
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Matt has claimed[1] before to be "post-economic", i.e. has enough money that it doesn't matter to him anymore. It's hard not to see this as personal, not financial. [1] https://x.com/sereedmedia/status/1839394786622722432

> It's hard not to see this as personal, not financial. Despite not needing the money, Matt seemed to be very upset that WPEngine was making money.

What's the common thing people with more than enough money to spend want? "more"

Re: WPEngine, Inc. vs. Automattic– Order on Motion for Preliminary Injunction

#189

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"Lose" is pronounced with the "oo" sound like in "ooze", "tool", or "moot". I think people get tripped up on that and spell it the way it sounds.

And also at this point a lot of people are just sick and tired of fighting autocorrect when they type a word right but the autocorrect deems that word not the correct one and swaps it with another (for example typing "fuck" and autocorrect swaps with "duck" and have just begun "eh, anyone with an ounce of IQ will read that how its intended" and move on with their time.

That’s why I write f2k - it’s the i18n version. /s

Re: WPEngine, Inc. vs. Automattic– Order on Motion for Preliminary Injunction

#190

As much as the US justice system is deeply, deeply flawed, it is one of the few places where very wealthy people ever hit the "find out" stage after fucking around. Some recent examples, apart from this case, certainly include SBF going to prison, Elon Musk being forced to buy Twitter, Alex Jones' enormous civil judgment, and so on. I'm not saying I have faith in the system, exactly, especially when it tends to only…

In almost every example you cited, the very wealthy people were also very stupid and violated bedrock principles of the court system in a way that could not be swept under the rug. Specifically: - Elon Musk put it in writing that he was going to buy Twitter with no due diligence. Contracts are nine tenths of the law; no court in the world is going to get you out of one because the biggest value the court system has t…

>He didn't even show up to court.

Yes he did, under oath, and he didn't do so well - he was caught lying about evidence during his testimony, and famously admitted that he knew that the shooting wasn't staged.

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/08/03/alex-jones-trial-def...

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