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South Korean president declares martial law, parliament votes to lift it

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Post by rickcarlino »

dataflow wrote: post #54

I feel like I'd seen absolutely nothing about South Korea in the news for a long time, and then suddenly woke up to this, with zero context. Do folks have any recommendations for how to keep up with global news at a high level so that you're not completely clueless when something like this happens? Like I mean some sort of "international edition" of an aggregator like Google News, I guess.

For Korea specifically, I listen to KBS world radio news. Over the last few weeks I’ve seen an increasing number of stories about interparty scuffles and investigations of certain politicians.

Re: South Korean president declares martial law, parliament votes to lift it

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Post by rpicard »

dataflow wrote: post #54

I feel like I'd seen absolutely nothing about South Korea in the news for a long time, and then suddenly woke up to this, with zero context. Do folks have any recommendations for how to keep up with global news at a high level so that you're not completely clueless when something like this happens? Like I mean some sort of "international edition" of an aggregator like Google News, I guess.

I recently found Rest of World and I like it, they seem to be high quality: https://restofworld.org/

Re: South Korean president declares martial law, parliament votes to lift it

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Post by etiam »

blitzar wrote: post #58
alephnerd wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Massive deal. South Korea is a new democracy and sudden impositions of martial law harken back to the 1970s-80s when military rule existed. Best case, this is a blatant attempt at a self coup d'etat. Worst case, North Korea actually engaged in war.

Worst case, South Korea starts a war with North Korea so the president can cling to power.

Are you sure that's a worst case scenario? Pyongyang has clearly decided to get their troops current live combat experience and is soliciting military assistance from a larger aggressive dictatorship, which is however very busy elsewhere right now.

That reason would be awful, and most likely the consequences too, but it's not readily obvious to me that the timing would be.

Re: South Korean president declares martial law, parliament votes to lift it

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Post by Uvix »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #125
ninalanyon wrote: post #117

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> Is that really as true as it used to be since COVID? A number of governments enacted quite astonishingly repressive measures Zero countries in the West enacted anything resembling martial law. The only freedoms abridged were those of movement and assembly, and even then the penalty was being shut down or ticketed, rarely jail, never summary execution.

Saying it doesn't resemble martial law, and then immediately listing freedoms that were abolished, is a contradiction.

Rather than "freedom of movement and assembly", I'd argue that what we lost was "freedom of due process". Everyone was jailed, just in their own homes.

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Post by layer8 »

dh2022 wrote: post #106
rrr_oh_man wrote: post #63

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And it’s always the others who are doing it. Our government would never. I mean, they did, but that was at least… dozens of years ago. And got forcibly declassified. They would never today. I guess. :-)

I am sorry I lack context. Which government took over dozens of years ago? And what got forcibly declassified? Thanks.

This is about “using the constant threat of a virtual enemy”, not necessarily about a coup d’état (although that wasn’t so far away either four years ago).

Re: South Korean president declares martial law, parliament votes to lift it

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Post by coldtea »

intoamplitudes wrote: post #11

Transparent coup d'etat attempt rumored to happen for months. The only option when the mouse is cornered. Approval rating in the <10% range, Japan whispering in his ear and pulling the puppet strings, crazy selfish wife abusing state resources, it is almost comically predictable if not for how serious it is. North Korea is always the convenient excuse... only hope Westerners don't get fooled by the rhetoric. Guy digg…

Western politicians might pretend to take it at face value, as it's useful to fuel the foreign threat narratives, and help elites use similar excuses here too.

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Post by [deleted] »

dfxm12 wrote: post #149
mschuster91 wrote: post #103

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> Imagine the Western online MRA/redpill/incel vs. radfem circles but as core identities in national politics. I have zero idea about SK, but ... "woke vs not woke" has become very much a core identity part in Western politics. The last US election has proven that, and what's going on here in Germany especially with Markus Söder isn't funny any more either [1], we got elections looming in about three months. [1] http…

In the context of western politics, "woke vs not woke" is just today's name for progressive (or even status quo) vs reactionary politics. What's being referred to in SK is somewhat more specific to incels and the 4B movement (which is more radical than how westerners have been using it).

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Re: South Korean president declares martial law, parliament votes to lift it

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Post by DrillShopper »

atomicnumber3 wrote: post #169
Workaccount2 wrote: post #130

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No, like five people in the west were convinced of that and they spent all their free time screeching about it on Twitter. Everyone else knew the difference between masks and literal martial law.

Looking at the results from the last election I guarantee you that it was more than five people

Re: South Korean president declares martial law, parliament votes to lift it

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Post by coldtea »

jamal-kumar wrote: post #147
dh2022 wrote: post #106

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I am sorry I lack context. Which government took over dozens of years ago? And what got forcibly declassified? Thanks.

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Speakers over 40 all around the world use that. And when emojis are not supported (like in an plain text file meant to be read on people's terminals, or iirc here on HN too), it makes sense for people under 40 too.
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