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London's 850-year-old food markets to close

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Re: London's 850-year-old food markets to close

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Post by Der_Einzige »

Symbiote wrote: post #123
Hilift wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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This is completely incorrect, please don't spread culture-war lies on HN. The £12.50 charge is for old, polluting cars. Petrol cars made since around 2005 are exempt, and diesel cars since 2015. Vans from ~2006 and 2016 respectively. https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ultra-low-emission-zone/car...

A statement that requires context/astriks is not "completely incorrect"

Please stop trying to act like a moderator here, it's against HN guidelines.

Re: London's 850-year-old food markets to close

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Post by HenryBemis »

"it's all about the money now"

Newsflash: It's always been about the money. I first went to Canary Wharf in 1995, a friend bought a small house there and it was a shitty place. I visited him again in 2001 and the place had changed "a lot". I ended up living in the same area for a few years around 2017, and CW has nothing from 'that' time. Back then you could buy land/a house at a (considering today's prices) 'cheap'. Now every square meter is worth plenty of Latinum. So yeah, this part (market) could be 'repurposed for luxury offices, luxury homes, etc and whoever owns it can have a x20 return, so why not..?

Re: London's 850-year-old food markets to close

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Post by petercooper »

DrBazza wrote: post #175

The Corporation of London own the land Billingsgate is on. They've been looking to redevelop this for over a decade since the land's value is now magnitudes more than when it was built because of Canary Wharf and the new Canary Wharf Crossrail station. It's prime real estate land, possibly the best plot in London right now. And so is Smithfield, or at least the land that Museum of London is on, and they're moving to…

Smithfield absolutely is. There's a large (and surprisingly atmospheric) underground car park under it and the Farringdon Elizabeth Line station has an entrance right there now too. Smithfield is one of my favourite "drive into London and park without headaches" spots when Stratford's hotels are sold out.

Re: London's 850-year-old food markets to close

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Post by Der_Einzige »

johnzim wrote: post #15

What a shame. On a few occasions my wife and I woke up at ridiculous o'clock and made our way down to Billingsgate market on the underground. We'd come back with fish and a big salmon in a black bin-bag, which I'd do a progressively less horrific job of filleting each time. Our reward would be a bacon/sausage and egg butty and a stiff cup of builder's tea. Good times

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Re: London's 850-year-old food markets to close

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Post by optimalsolver »

gadders wrote: post #105
Midnight1938 wrote: post #77

Slightly amusing how a lot of stuff like this thats happening to uk is things they have done to others in the past

Defeated them militarily and conquered their country?

As the Commonwealth made it easier for the people of those lands to immigrate into the UK, they'd now consider it worth it.

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Post by Neil44 »

DrBazza wrote: post #175

The Corporation of London own the land Billingsgate is on. They've been looking to redevelop this for over a decade since the land's value is now magnitudes more than when it was built because of Canary Wharf and the new Canary Wharf Crossrail station. It's prime real estate land, possibly the best plot in London right now. And so is Smithfield, or at least the land that Museum of London is on, and they're moving to…

I'm sure they'll name the new luxury apartments nice names, that nod to the former history of the site.

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Post by hermitcrab »

n4r9 wrote: post #89
roughly wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Christ, yeah - I came here to post the same quote. What kind of horrific shit does one need to go through in life to become capable of uttering that kind of horseshit with a straight face?

Wall Street eat your heart out; London has a proud and lengthy history of producing corporate psychopaths.

I imagine the people behind this furiously knocking one off while watching the "Greed is good" bit from Wallstreet on loop.

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Post by Yeul »

tempusalaria wrote: post #127
walterbell wrote: post #8

Need a City quant PhD to invent a mathematical analog of Black-Scholes [1] for pricing and trading the irreplaceable value of culturally significant physical spaces to future generations. Then City-like [2] institutions can compete financially for ongoing preservation rights, rather than a one-time chop shop auction. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black%E2%80%93Scholes_model [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_…

The reality is that these are not culturally significant institutions and most people in London don’t care. Ordinary Londoners rarely use these markets, and they mostly sell to restaurants, and require major financial support. Not everything from the past is good. We don’t still run coal power plants in London just to get that historic smog. They were already planning to move both markets way out of central London (t…

The reality is that the restaurant food is brought by trucks from warehouses. There are special companies that specialise in providing everything that a restaurant needs.

Aside from Michelin star places chefs don't go around buying anything the whole ordering is highly automated.

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Post by [deleted] »

Der_Einzige wrote: post #181
Symbiote wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is completely incorrect, please don't spread culture-war lies on HN. The £12.50 charge is for old, polluting cars. Petrol cars made since around 2005 are exempt, and diesel cars since 2015. Vans from ~2006 and 2016 respectively. https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ultra-low-emission-zone/car...

A statement that requires context/astriks is not "completely incorrect" Please stop trying to act like a moderator here, it's against HN guidelines.

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Re: London's 850-year-old food markets to close

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Post by mulmen »

Der_Einzige wrote: post #180
hnbear wrote: post #24

Statement from the City of London Corporation which is closing them down: > Chris Hayward, policy chairman of the City of London Corporation, said the > decision represented a "positive new chapter" for the markets as it "empowers > traders to build a sustainable future in premises that align with their > long-term business goals". This is a great statement. Like firing people to free them up to find jobs that better…

The reality is that almost no one makes any good money in the food industry. For a lot of people in that industry, if they tried to find jobs that better aligned with their skills (except in food), they'd likely be better off. A lot of people take jobs in terrible places and get complacent, maybe far too complacent. A healthy economy is one where money, people, skills, and intellectual property has high velocity , me…

> A healthy economy is one where money, people, skills, and intellectual property has high velocity, meaning people quickly reorient their productive capacity to where it's most useful.

Everyone is an interchangeable cog!

> Serves them right for Brexit!

Brexit wasn’t a unanimous vote. There are people suffering under the Brexit decision that couldn’t vote at the time.

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