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Bluesky is on the verge of overtaking Threads in all the ways that matter

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Re: Bluesky is on the verge of overtaking Threads in all the ways that matter

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Post by afavour »

pythonguython wrote: post #11

Low quality article aside, Threads also had a major spike in usage that quickly dropped off. I could be wrong, but I’m going to guess Bluesky will be the same. They don’t seem to offer anything new/different other than moderation, which I’m not convinced is enough to shift momentum from x to bluesky

IMO the biggest difference is that they aren’t paying users based on engagement. That’s the #1 worst decision Musk made after buying Twitter, it incentivizes people to post incendiary content, to troll and to outright lie in the aim of going viral. You see it all the time on Twitter these days and Bluesky is vastly better not having that motive.

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Post by antod »

llm_trw wrote: post #83
orbat wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Usenet, BBSs, mailing lists etc. are social media

They are social networks not social media, social media is when you scream in a void and the void screams back. The latrinalia of our age if you will.

I wouldn't call the old stuff social networks. What made social networks a new thing was the social graph of connections becoming the information architecture of the content rather than topics. You found stuff (or it found you) by person rather than subject.

Usenet was topic based (eg reddit seems closest these days), mail lists were usually topic based, forums were organised around topics etc.

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Post by bargainbot3k »

gwervc wrote: post #169
anon7000 wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Added to that is user choice over moderation and algorithms. That’s what’s truly interesting about BlueSky. It allows for side A and B to both exist, with people who want to be more isolated in a safe space (so to speak) to do so. That’s a really great property. If I want to engage with content I severely disagree with, I can put it in a feed I check infrequently so that it doesn’t impact my life. Humans aren’t good…

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Post by cosmic_cheese »

gwervc wrote: post #169
anon7000 wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Added to that is user choice over moderation and algorithms. That’s what’s truly interesting about BlueSky. It allows for side A and B to both exist, with people who want to be more isolated in a safe space (so to speak) to do so. That’s a really great property. If I want to engage with content I severely disagree with, I can put it in a feed I check infrequently so that it doesn’t impact my life. Humans aren’t good…

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The move to Bluesky encompasses much more than leftists and came as a result of increasing numbers of trolls and bots and decreasing quality of interaction, both of which hit an inflection point following the election. You don’t have to belong to a particular political leaning to get tired of those things.

As an example, a lot of artists moved because they wanted to post their work and talk with other artists in peace, which had become increasingly difficult on X.

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Post by skybrian »

cosmic_cheese wrote: post #107
skybrian wrote: post #92

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> inevitable I don't get any trolls on either platform. I guess I'm too boring :)

I don’t get much trouble myself personally either, but it shows up in the replies to the posts in my feed which isn’t great and why a good block feature is necessary.

Yes, but the root cause is that Twitter doesn't stop rendering posts when there are no replies left to display. Instead it fills the silence with posts that aren't replies.

BlueSky just stops, like a normal program. When there's nothing more to show, silence is okay. So I don't need a blocklist there.

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Post by afavour »

mwinatschek wrote: post #163

Social media was doomed the moment its users were demoted from customers to exploitable sources of data. Bluesky will inevitably follow the same path of enshittification as every other social network before it. Its current success hinges solely on the nostalgic desire for a single platform where people can gather in peace. The real question is: How many cycles of doom will people endure before they finally stop jumpi…

> Bluesky will inevitably follow the same path of enshittification

Why do you say that? Bluesky is a protocol-first non profit. To my knowledge no company set up that way has achieved this level of success before. They don’t have the same motivations to enshittify that other networks do.

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Post by glenstein »

enjaydee wrote: post #40
akira2501 wrote: post #5

> overtaking Threads So the lowest bar possibly imaginable?

I don't think it's that low of a bar. Threads benefited from easy account creation and promotion from Instagram (2b MAU?) Bluesky started from word of mouth invite only

Yeah, getting anywhere near what the major tech companies are capable of should be understood as a triumph.

Does anyone remember now Spoutible? Substack Notes? How about Spill, Hive, or Post? Being even with in anything approximating striking distance of Threads would have been a triumph for any of them.

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Post by glenstein »

wmf wrote: post #52
phb01 wrote: post #45

I think the factor which will determine which networks survive is the ability to handle bots driven by modern AI agents. I’m not sure how even the best moderation features can detect and mitigate these.

AI doesn't matter. Moderation should apply to humans and AIs equally.

It does matter because AI can be more effectively leveraged and scaled to support "coordinated inauthentic activity" campaigns.

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Post by Aeglaecia »

moomin wrote: post #65
lupusreal wrote: post #46

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Man, I wish I could be even a hundredth as effective at pissing people off online. I only piss off boring people I guess.

A lot of the hate you get depends not on what you say, but what you are.

the impact of existence on perception is mediated by group attitudes, which are lessened in influence by anonymity ... my personal maxim is that hatred does vary on what is said and more so by where it is said
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