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How oxide cuts data center power consumption in half

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Re: How oxide cuts data center power consumption in half

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> as normal for a Unix veering offtopic, did you know macOS is a certified Unix? https://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/brand3581.htm As I recall, Apple advertised macOS as a Unix without such certification, got sued, and then scrambled to implement the required features to get certification as a result. Here's the story as told by the lead engineer of the project: https://www.quora.com/What-goes-into-making-an…

This comes up rather often, and on the last significant post about it I saw on HN someone pointed out that the certification is kind of meaningless[1]. macOS poll(2) is not Unix-compliant, hasn't been since forever, yet every new version of macOS gets certified regardless. [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41823078

lovely, i favorited that comment!

Re: How oxide cuts data center power consumption in half

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FWIW, we had to have the idle speed of our fans lowered because the usual idle of around 5k RPM was WAY too much cooling. We generally run our fans at around 2.5kRPM (barely above idle). This is due to not only the larger fans, but also the fact that we optimized and prioritized as little restriction on airflow as possible. If you’ve taken apart a current gen 1U/2U server and then compare that to how little our airfl…

> the usual idle of around 5k RPM was WAY too much cooling. What does this mean? Can one actually get too much cooling? Do you get like condensation and stuff, that kind of "too much cooling" ? I'm not being snarky, i actually don't know.

It must mean cooling significantly below the target temperature, and thus wasting power to do it

Re: How oxide cuts data center power consumption in half

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post #182
post #179

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> the usual idle of around 5k RPM was WAY too much cooling. What does this mean? Can one actually get too much cooling? Do you get like condensation and stuff, that kind of "too much cooling" ? I'm not being snarky, i actually don't know.

It must mean cooling significantly below the target temperature, and thus wasting power to do it

I see, thank you!

Re: How oxide cuts data center power consumption in half

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I'm amazed Apple don't have a rack mount version of their M series chips yet. Even for their own internal use in their data centers they'd have to save an absolute boat load on power and cooling given their performance per watt compared to legacy stuff.

Companies buying massive cloud scale server hardware want to be able to choose from a dozen different Taiwanese motherboard manufacturers. Apple is in no way motivated to release or sell the M3/M4 CPUs as a product that major east asia motherboard manufacturers can design their own platform for. Apple is highly invested in tightly integrated ecosystems where everything is soldered down together in one package as a co…

…Apple has made rack-mounted computers in recent history. They don’t sell chips, they sell complete boxes with rack mount hardware, motherboard and all.

https://www.apple.com/shop/product/G1720LL/A/Refurbished-Mac...

Re: How oxide cuts data center power consumption in half

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Companies buying massive cloud scale server hardware want to be able to choose from a dozen different Taiwanese motherboard manufacturers. Apple is in no way motivated to release or sell the M3/M4 CPUs as a product that major east asia motherboard manufacturers can design their own platform for. Apple is highly invested in tightly integrated ecosystems where everything is soldered down together in one package as a co…

…Apple has made rack-mounted computers in recent history. They don’t sell chips, they sell complete boxes with rack mount hardware, motherboard and all. https://www.apple.com/shop/product/G1720LL/A/Refurbished-Mac...

An extremely niche product for things like video editing studios, not something you can deploy at scale in colocation/datacenter environments. Literally never seen rackmounted apple hardware in a serious datacenter since the apple xserve 20 to 22 years ago.
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