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That’s a different point entirely. You talked about being unable to fit your head out comfortably. I addressed that.
At least their head can escape even if the rest of them can't.
Four dead in fire as Tesla doors fail to open after crash
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Re: Four dead in fire as Tesla doors fail to open after crash
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#183What is wrong with door handles? Tesla should have been sued into oblivion the first time somebody died in a car fire. And the NHTSA should have regulations against cars without interior handles.
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This is US law. You can't have a child usable manual emergency release on the doors where you might have child lock enabled.
You could have the manual release just not do anything when child lock is enabled like on every other car with child locks. Then again, there should be a manual release on the outside too...
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> Every Uber I take in a Tesla would practically need an airline safety briefing for this. If your Uber ride is a Model Y you may be SOL: Not all Model Y vehicles are equipped with a manual release for the rear doors.
How did this even get past the NHTSA/DOT - that has to be illegal. Electrical doors, with no failsafe?
I break laws every single day ...
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"Tesla Has Highest Fatal Accident Rate of All Auto Brands: Study" (2024) https://autos.yahoo.com/tesla-highest-fatal-accident-rate-16...
Interesting quote from that piece: > The study's authors make clear that the results do not indicate Tesla vehicles are inherently unsafe or have design flaws. In fact, Tesla vehicles are loaded with safety technology; the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS) named the 2024 Model Y as a Top Safety Pick+ award winner, for example. Many of the other cars that ranked highly on the list have also been given high…
I feel like this gonna become a real problem as (any brand of) electric cars fill out the world's fleet.
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>It is correct to blame them for the way the door locks work though and therefore can be blamed for the excess injuries/deaths that result from the design decision. This is what is being discussed here: that four people burned to death because they were unable to exit the vehicle.
It's not correct to blame them for the way the door locks work. This is the case on all electronic door handles, now becoming common on new cars. The reason you can't have an emergency manual override easily accessible is that a child could use it when child lock is enabled. The US government created this problem.
I own a Volkswagen ID.4, also an EV with electronic door handles. The door handles also function as the mechanical emergency release. When the handle is only slightly pulled, the electronic release opens the door. When the handle is fully pulled twice, the mechanical release opens the door. The car also has (electronic) child safety locks, and is legally sold in the US.