Earlier quoted context omitted.
I like it, a lot of room to play with things like 'imPress'
Considering this dispute already invoves trademrk confustion allegations I'd avoid the words "word" , "press" , WP" and "auto" and "matic" completely.
WordPress.org's latest move involves taking control of a WP Engine plugin
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#183To me, WordPress used to be the thing you used if you wanted a website that was easy to put together but was full of third party php spaghetti code and security holes. Now, it's completely radioactive.
I wouldn't even really call it that. I only think Wordpress is easier if one of two things is true: 1. You are actually building a dynamic site; eg WooCommerce is much easier than building your own storefront. 2. Your users refuse to use Markdown, and are paying you enough to double the overhead and put it all on you. It gives me a good chuckle when I see posts on here like "We use Wordpress and then scrape the stati…
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#184> It’s not clear what security problem Mullenweg is referring to in the post. Where is the CVE? What risk is there continuing to use the original plugin? No details at all. This results in fear: we don't know if the original is safe to use. > Going forward, Secure Custom Fields is now a non-commercial plugin Does this imply that Wordpress is potentially going after a revenue stream from WPEngine? If the plugin had Pr…
My understanding is ACF injected notices for their personal legal gains on everyone's dashboards. I wouldn't be surprised if such thing is a breach.
This is cited in WPEngine's lawsuit. Like you said, I wouldn't be surprised if this behavior of matt's was a breach.
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#185Earlier quoted context omitted.
Bill Clinton said he didn’t have relations with that woman. At some point in life, people usually stop believing everything that others “literally said”.
Right, sorry, I see what you mean. You mean “if you believe that the issue is truly as he describes it publicly and not in fact something else” rather than the literal interpretation of “if you believe that this is his issue”. My answer was based on the fact that I’ve seen several people who are unaware of what Mullen’s said that precipitated the row.
Money, more and more money for matt, seems to be the matt's driving motivation here. He seems to be projecting his own greed onto others.
Re: WordPress.org's latest move involves taking control of a WP Engine plugin
#186What the hell is Mullenweg smoking? Seriously. This dude has completely lost what little was left of his mind.
Re: WordPress.org's latest move involves taking control of a WP Engine plugin
#187Wordpress banned forks from the plugin directory a while ago, so they're doing what they ban everyone else from doing. https://make.wordpress.org/plugins/2021/02/16/reminder-forke...
That post seems to be about forking open source plugins which cost money. From what I can tell they did fork this plugin but are not offering its premium features for free. Just to preempt people arguing with me, please note that this comment isn't meant to be an ethical defense of them one way or the other, but just a factual correction.
If WP had only fixed the error but not removed all of those things & and hadn't claimed authorship themselves ("By Wordpress.org", and putting themselves at the top of the contributors while they're certainly the one with the fewest contributions), that argument would be different, I believe.
Would wordpress.org allow WooCommerce to be forked, uploaded with no modifications beyond the all references to WooCommerce being changed to YouCommerce and all mentions of Automattic being wiped? I don't see that being allowed.
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#188Honestly I don't get the backlash Mullenweg is getting - a corp is trying to freeload on OSS community, GPL let's them have the code - but I'm all in favor of kicking then off of everything else.
> a corp is trying to freeload on OSS community automattic is worth a few billion. what are talking about?
Re: WordPress.org's latest move involves taking control of a WP Engine plugin
#189Honestly I don't get the backlash Mullenweg is getting - a corp is trying to freeload on OSS community, GPL let's them have the code - but I'm all in favor of kicking then off of everything else.
It’s a bit two faced. He’s clearly abusing his position, annd every time this topic comes up (see elasticsearch, terraform, redis from recent memory) HN has clearly been on the side of the open source license. But, that’s not why he’s getting backlash. He’s getting backlash because he does what the “other side” did in all of these scenarios - invent reasons that are unrelated to the license dispute to cause the split…
Again I don't see what's wrong with this ? Clearly they have no recourse through GPL but they have trademarks and infrastructure. I don't see anything unreasonable about his behavior.
Re: WordPress.org's latest move involves taking control of a WP Engine plugin
#190The whole thing is confuinsing. It turns out WP Engine is not part of WordPress (despite the name) and has never contributed to WordPress. WordPress are trying to take more control of their name/trademark.
There's more to the story, as recounted in other threads here. It isn't as one sided as you would imply.