Live data from Hacker News

Google Cache is fully dead

seroundtable.com

181–190 of 249 posts

Re: Google Cache is fully dead

#181

What are the chances of wayback machine removing snapshots? I found an article on something that is far too taboo to talk about these days that was removed from the newspaper after having it there for more than 5 years. Out of public pressure.

What was the article? Is this in Pak?

Could have been

Re: Google Cache is fully dead

#182
Google Cache was useful because you could sometimes not find a term or keyword in the web site, but it would be in the cache. Or for sites that have gone offline, or no longer have the item. "It's still in the Google Cache!" you can't say that anymore.

I use Google less and less these days. What's the point when you can just ask an LLM, and it gives you an answer within seconds, with no ads? You can ask for references and links and it will give those to you too. I don't think I've ever been given a link to an SEO content farm, where as with Google search its the entire page. Google Search feels like Yahoo was (maybe even worse) right before it died and was replaced with Bing.

Re: Google Cache is fully dead

#183
post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One more reason to not use Google search, I don't remember when it was the last time I used it, perhaps like twelve years ago.

Do any other versions provide cached versions of the pages they crawl? Far too many sites preform shinanigins based on geoip/ua. Yandex, DuckDuckGo, and BraveSearch, please provide cache the pages you crawl and make them available to your users.

Yandex already does. Bing has cache as well.

Re: Google Cache is fully dead

#184
post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree. I am happy the Internet Archive are fighting the draconian copy right laws that exist.

They aren't really fighting it, because they never picked a winnable battle. Rather, they overextended themselves massively in a blunder akin to just throwing themselves on their enemy's sword. They decided to go all-or-nothing on uncontrolled digital lending when there wasn't a snowball's chance in hell that the current laws would give them any wiggle room. And unsurprisingly, it will give them a mortal wound.

Yeah, but no person who would worry about this would have made the IA in the first place. IA itself is a massive copyright suit waiting to happen.

I know, I know, if you were them and had bought bitcoin at $10 you would have sold at precisely the top at $70k per and neither before nor after.

Re: Google Cache is fully dead

#185
post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can see how that works for you, but it’s a lot simpler for us. If I picked the movie then I pause it when someone asks. If my wife picked the movie then she pauses it.

With a Real Remote Control (that nobody owns except for the coffee table that nobody owns): Anyone involved in a group viewing can just push the pause button when that is useful for one or more members of that group. Nobody's locked-down personal pocket computer needs to be involved at all for this most mundane task. Simplicity.

At home, it just pops up for everyone on the local network so anyone can do it. Works nicely for us to be honest. I quite like it. And the remote works too. Overall, I’m quite happy with this stuff.

The only thing is that if you set up with all HomePods you can have your TV audio go to them too in stereo. Very cool. And Google doesn’t have that feature.

Re: Google Cache is fully dead

#186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They aren't really fighting it, because they never picked a winnable battle. Rather, they overextended themselves massively in a blunder akin to just throwing themselves on their enemy's sword. They decided to go all-or-nothing on uncontrolled digital lending when there wasn't a snowball's chance in hell that the current laws would give them any wiggle room. And unsurprisingly, it will give them a mortal wound.

Yeah, but no person who would worry about this would have made the IA in the first place. IA itself is a massive copyright suit waiting to happen. I know, I know, if you were them and had bought bitcoin at $10 you would have sold at precisely the top at $70k per and neither before nor after.

I would agree, but IA did eventually add a mechanism for removing a site/copyrighted content entirely.

If they were straight up ignoring or rejecting DMCA takedown requests, then that would be a self-immolation that is similarly pyrrhic to the uncontrolled digital lending operation.

Re: Google Cache is fully dead

#187

I hardly use Google search anymore. I think Google search wil also be dead soo . For long time I had to suffix "reddit", to every search query I make because of absolute garbage results I get from Google of blogspam and adverts everywhere. Now I only use LLMs and maybe perplexity sometimes. Unfortunately, Google's time is over.

Can you help me understand how you use an LLM instead of google/bing? Did you have to set it up? Got a link to share? Thanks.

Re: Google Cache is fully dead

#188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They aren't really fighting it, because they never picked a winnable battle. Rather, they overextended themselves massively in a blunder akin to just throwing themselves on their enemy's sword. They decided to go all-or-nothing on uncontrolled digital lending when there wasn't a snowball's chance in hell that the current laws would give them any wiggle room. And unsurprisingly, it will give them a mortal wound.

Yeah, but no person who would worry about this would have made the IA in the first place. IA itself is a massive copyright suit waiting to happen. I know, I know, if you were them and had bought bitcoin at $10 you would have sold at precisely the top at $70k per and neither before nor after.

[flagged]

Re: Google Cache is fully dead

#190
post #157

On a unrelated note, could IA be charging companies training AI for access to an API with all thier data, or a enormous data dump? Presumably historical context is quite useful for so e cases and if they can access new content like books etc then that'd be another benifit. It is a win win for site owners who currently have everyone and thier dog crawling thier site at the moment.

Historical data, or before AI spam data is the most valuable. Makes sense to pull up the ladders from competitors.
Post reply on HN