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Air Con: $1697 for an on/off switch

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Re: Air Con: $1697 for an on/off switch

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For a small place there's a lot of sandgropers on HN somehow

Timezone effect, I think. Just us and the whole of East Asia online now. The Poms and Europeans are just about to wake up, and the Americans have logged off for the night.

It's a nice and quiet time.

Why do work when you can read HN?

Hi from east Asia!

Re: Air Con: $1697 for an on/off switch

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> The original ezone tablet had been running Android 6.0, this Samsung was still on 5.0 but I didnt think that would cause any issues so I got started on doing what was clearly missing: The required apps. All ezone apps are available both on the Advantage Air website and the apkpure site. I only learned of the apkpure site from a post claiming he had been directed to it by a AA tech support person. Redirecting your c…

The apps are signed, so it's possible to compare signatures against the originals. I haven't seen any reports of signatures not matching from Apkpure, though certainly possible. But more importantly, what's the actual threat vector here? This isn't his personal phone. Just don't connect the tablet to your Wi-Fi. What's it going to do, sneakily increase your temperature by 1 degree?

AFAICT you need to have it connected to the internet so that their phone app can connect (presumably via cloud servers) to the control tablet and provide controls from your phone in and out of the house.

Also if you want to integrate the air-con with general smart home stuff.

Re: Air Con: $1697 for an on/off switch

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I love that this man resurrected his blog after 10 years just to write this. Anger and spite are strong motivators.

I made my daughter’s bed from scratch out of anger and spite toward IKEA.

IKEA? Thats a surprise, what happened?

Re: Air Con: $1697 for an on/off switch

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It 100% is designed so that you have to use their hardware.

so if the company has established they're willing to go that far to lock customers into their ecosystem and milk for $$$... it's not inconceivable that they also engineered (or chose not to fix) the cheap flash + chatty logging hardware failure for the same purpose.

Seems those tablets die not long after the warranty expires.

I'm willing to bet money on that it's planned obsolescence, especially considering their "technology keeps moving forward" bullshit.

Re: Air Con: $1697 for an on/off switch

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Oh, and you just need one of these and a TTL to RS422 converter off aliexpress to replicate the interface: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005918675239.html The connectors on the small RJ45 daughter board are JST-SH 1.0 The yellow lead puts out 4.2v to replicate a Li-Ion battery (as far as I can tell). You can ignore this. Red is positive Black is negative Green is usb d+ Blue is usb d-

This is all fantastic info. I have included the details and a link to these comments at the bottom of the post. Great work!

Hey - As the owner of a similar system I have a question for you - do you use their phone app to control your system from your phone in/out of the house, and did it still work after this?

Re: Air Con: $1697 for an on/off switch

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knowing a lot of these companies. it wouldn't really matter if it fell inside of the warranty. they would simply screw a lot of people over until there's a class action lawsuit (or whatever equivalent is in that country) where they get a slap on the wrist for not honoring warranty claims.

My A/C unit is fairly new but there are signs the condenser unit fan is starting to go. Since it is still under warranty for parts (not labor) I thought I would be able to just get a replacement fan and install it myself. But no, the manufacturer will only deal with a "certified technician," who of course charges an outrageous amount of money (many hundreds of dollars) to replace the fan. When I asked the technician…

Also, likely the technicians company paid big money to be an official provider (or pays a % of this job up)

At least Ponzi had style.

Re: Air Con: $1697 for an on/off switch

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I'm struggling to understand why someone who knows software would think things in your house relying on android was a good idea.

Just get up and use a remote control people. It's not that hard. You really don't need an app to do it remotely. Your life will be fine.

Re: Air Con: $1697 for an on/off switch

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There's an even bigger hack: use photoshop to modify the prescription. My wife has been doing it for years. This is helpful since sometimes the prescription is over-specific and points to contacts you don't like.

I considered that of course, but something about the signature on it (as opposed to self entry which has no signature) made me very uneasy. And doesn't the verification phone call (which fails unsafe, luckily) happen either way? Maybe not.

They must not be making this verification call since we've been doing this for years. Yes, it's straightforward forgery, so your unease is warranted. But I have no problem breaking pointless laws.

Re: Air Con: $1697 for an on/off switch

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Ugh. The whole "smart aircon" industry needs a good-sized asteroid wiping them out of the existence. There is a very real need for modern variable-speed units, and vendors just keep fucking it up by using proprietary protocols locked into their ecosystem. TRANE in the US is similar. And this is really annoying because variable-speed pumps solve all the problems with short cycling and oversized systems.

You think this is bad? Try swimming pool equipment.

Both of these examples, and others, sound like an underserved market.

Re: Air Con: $1697 for an on/off switch

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Very convenient for them and also easy to accomplish by buying the cheapest parts. It's probably eMMC-based and writing a logfile constantly. Source: every Android that has ever died on me in this exact way (four and counting)

Yep this is nearly guaranteed. Kills so many IoT things, logging the world and eMMC write limits being garbage.

I feel this may be natural selection at play.

With bottom-of-the-barrel (and/or "value add") IoT garbage, hardware suppliers are a commodity, and under competitive pressure, the winners will be ones that can make cheapest hardware that just about outlasts a typical warranty period of their customers' products. Shorter-lived parts will not bring repeat business; longer-lived parts will get value-optimized further. Failing just after warranty period is Just Right.

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